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PipoTheClown Amphetamine Filth

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Post #51 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: TOL - Gimme Shelter |
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| Husek wrote: | | PipoTheClown wrote: | | Husek wrote: | | PipoTheClown wrote: | Well, the chords of Gimme Shelter are exactly the same as in Temple Of Love and so is the guitarriff. On TOL it's playes twice as fast though.
And many, many of the songs after FALAA are re-inventions of the same sisters 'song. Which is the real reason btw why there isn't going to be a new album ever: the man has nothing new to give. |
@Gimme shelter - Now exactly equal, take a guitar and try to play Temple in Gimme shelter timing and you'll see how wrong it 'll look.
Gimme Shelter it's very near to temple when you hear, but isn't when you play
@Re-inventions: Arms and Still are pretty originals.
(apart from Killing Joke Songs) |
Like I said, it's the same chord scheme (e-d-a if I recall correctly). And when you play GM, it's really easy to see how A.E. came up with the riff for TOL.
As a guitar player: it's a LOT easier to play GM  |
Temple it's E-D-A, gimme shelter it's more like...
G|-----4-4---4---------2-2---2-------2-----2-----2---2-----2-------
D|---6---------6-----4---------4-----------------------2-----2-----
A|-4-------------4-2-------------2-0---0-0---0-0---------0-----0-2-
Close, but not the same scheme
BTW, indeed, GM it's pretty easier than GM |
Nope, the chords are E-D-A in both songs.. (sorry ) _________________ Axe FX - Fractal Adidio |
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centurionofprix Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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centurionofprix Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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Post #53 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Ehh, wrong thread. Never mind that last post. There ARE some tabs there though. |
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centurionofprix Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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gallup Road Kill

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Post #55 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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mh Underneath the Rock

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Post #56 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Not surprising for the Dandy Warhols to pay some tribute: http://www.dandywarhols.com/news/tour-pics-sisters/  _________________ All programs can be optimized, and all programs have bugs; therefore all programs can be optimized to one line that doesn’t work. |
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mh Underneath the Rock

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Elystan Amphetamine Filth

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Post #58 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote: |
Going back to JD, the most obvious link between the two bands (ie JD and TSOM) for those not familiar with the Mancunian Miserabilists (if that's not tautological) is that JD used to do a fairly faithful cover of Sister Ray live, a version of which can be found on the somehwat messy posthumous round-up album Still, which also features Dead Souls incidentally. |
"You should hear our version of Louie Louie, wow" |
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Nikolas Vitus Lagartija Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #59 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I've never noticed L.A. Rain's similarity to a particular Sisters track - their whole sound was clearly heavily influenced by the Girls, but it definitely has that Reptile House feel to it. Your post made me dig out some old RoA CDs and another of my old faves, Velveteen, sound very like the much later Sweet Child o' Mine about a minute or so in : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEN3yBWqYOU&feature=related. Imagine what a small share of the royalties of that song would be worth to phil and the lads ... |
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Pista Cureboi

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Post #60 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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L.A. Rain did have a similar bass riff to Emma, but that wasn't a TSOM song in the first place.
I see the Velveteen link though
Still not as cheeky as the B*****s though.
They practically copied Oasis* note for note
*pronounced "Oharses"
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SINsister Childlike Empress

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Post #61 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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SINsister Childlike Empress

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Post #62 Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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W0000t! Love 'em!  _________________ Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.
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road_kill Road Kill

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Swinnow Road Kill
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Post #64 Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:53 am Post subject: |
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One day having a pint in the Royal Park with Mugger Mark and Sue, when in pops Ben Gunn to see his mate Sue, should hear our next track, we've well ripped off Immigrant Song, what was it..... Floodland..... see Sounds letters column from a long time ago _________________ ....if I have to explain, then you'll never understand.... |
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centurionofprix Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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Bartek Overbomber

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Post #66 Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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not that's just and simply clever, double cover. kinda like Emma/Uptown top rankin _________________ "There is only the slightest movement of the fingers that makes the v-sign different from the Nazi salute. Always watch that."
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centurionofprix Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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mh Underneath the Rock

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Post #68 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| centurionofprix wrote: | | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqvy6HIqDG8 |
 _________________ All programs can be optimized, and all programs have bugs; therefore all programs can be optimized to one line that doesn’t work. |
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Nikolas Vitus Lagartija Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #69 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| centurionofprix wrote: | | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqvy6HIqDG8 |
I hope got substantial royalties for that, seeing as the game only came out in 1988. "Barry Leitch"'s Wikipedia page mentions that he has worked with "goth legends Alien Sex Fiend", so any suspicion that the nearly anagramous Leitch and Eldritch might be the same person can be immediately discounted ! |
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Swinnow Road Kill
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Post #70 Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| Swinnow wrote: | | One day having a pint in the Royal Park with Mugger Mark and Sue, when in pops Ben Gunn to see his mate Sue, should hear our next track, we've well ripped off Immigrant Song, what was it..... Floodland..... see Sounds letters column from a long time ago |
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Ooops. must have been drinking snakebite before I posted that, did of course mean Floorshow, sorry x _________________ ....if I have to explain, then you'll never understand.... |
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centurionofprix Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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Post #71 Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Hahaha! I was afraid to ask you to explain. |
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centurionofprix Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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Post #72 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| gallup wrote: |
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I guess Von was listening to a lot of Skynyrd when writing VT. It's not riff stealing as such (neither are most of the examples posted under the admittedly provocative thread title...) but compare this LS track to Something Fast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH-gnMSzmtI |
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