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MrChris wrote:I heard this too. The general line appears to be that Gary wrote a lovely song, and Andy warped it completely in his own inimitable way. I also heard that the metamorphosis of the song played a part in alienating Gary. Apparently one line in the song peed Gary off so much (more than Walk Away, even) as an apparent dig at his indecision, that it precipitated him leaving the band:

'Lingers undecided at the door'.

This one puzzles me, I have to say, since a) it fits into the song completely, rather than sounding like some gratuitous barb, and b) it isn't a particularly nasty comment anyway, is it? But it takes all sorts...

So yes, the general impression I have is that Gary wasn't a fan of the lyrics...

Mr C, my guess is the missing "careful" is the bit that hacked off Gary :?:

whether it was musical, or physical retraint, I suppose we'll never know but it seems to makes sense that Careful is Mr Marx :?
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I've read that "Marian" was a piece of music/ style of music played by the band on the deck of The Titanic as the ship went down. If you watch the (insert personal opinion) movie Titanic, somebody mentions this. The lyrics to Marian make an awful lot of sense if this is related...

I believe "First And Last And Always" was a phrase used during Prohibition as a kind "Yeah, right" to any questions as to whether or not you'd consumed alcohol. I've no where it comes from, or its significance to the rest of the lyrics though...

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First And Last And Always was a damn fine album, a turning point in my life, nothing was ever quite the same thereafter.

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I think FALAA is actually a catholic religious thingy :?:


it goes something like "Christ is the first the last" and to prove you're as religious as hell and never gonna stray from the path "and always"


yeah a quick search bore this

Our Lord taught His Full Deity (John 8:58, John 8:24) and the Bible calls Him the "Alpha and Omega, the first and the last" (Revelation 1:11, 17, 18). Yet it is Jehovah alone who declares that He is "the first...the last" (Isaiah 44:6). Since there can be only one first and last, God fully manifested Himself in Jesus Christ, "the first and the last" (Revelation 1:17, 18) as the Scriptures and the Christian Church maintain.


of course as usual i could be talkin' crap. Good fun though :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Well Khepre II it might just as well be called Black October, as Mr. E wanted but the release date was uncertain.
OK there is the track FALAA, just don't read so much into these or any lyrics or else you will start taking guns to school. (IMHO of course) ;D

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[quote="Red Sunsets"]First And Last And Always was a damn fine album, a turning point in my life, nothing was ever quite the same thereafter.

I couldn't agree more.
Some kind of.. is the one saddest bleakest things i ever heard.
but i'm an emotional kind of girl.
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emilystrange wrote:
Red Sunsets wrote:First And Last And Always was a damn fine album, a turning point in my life, nothing was ever quite the same thereafter.

I couldn't agree more.
Some kind of.. is the one saddest bleakest things i ever heard.
but i'm an emotional kind of girl.
:eek: :eek: :eek: A member for only two days so far and already 47 posts!?!? :eek: :eek: :eek: Man, Quiff Boy averages less than 6 posts a day, and he runs the forums! I did not think that there was that much Sisters-related stuff to discuss.
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Petseri wrote:
emilystrange wrote:
Red Sunsets wrote:First And Last And Always was a damn fine album, a turning point in my life, nothing was ever quite the same thereafter.
I couldn't agree more.
Some kind of.. is the one saddest bleakest things i ever heard.
but i'm an emotional kind of girl.
:eek: :eek: :eek: A member for only two days so far and already 47 posts!?!? :eek: :eek: :eek: Man, Quiff Boy averages less than 6 posts a day, and he runs the forums! I did not think that there was that much Sisters-related stuff to discuss.
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Is the song 'FALAA' not about Eldritch's view of the band-fan dynamic? ie. another pop at the goths. It's pretty much as blatant an attack as Floorshow was, I think. And also served to bring more and more of them on board. Oops. Similarly, the even-more-blatant More seemed to continue this trend of massive misinterpretation.

'There's some strange looking people out there. I hope you're not with me. Ahh ahh ahh, did I ask you to come? I think not. This one's for you, anyway...' intro to More, Crystal Palace 93.

In fairness, there was an unfeasible number of wedding dresses kicking around that day.

Or maybe he did it all knowingly. Maybe he loves goths. After all, they can be very pretty. Who knows? Who cares, when the songs are that good regardless?

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did frankenstein love his monster? maybe.
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Throw the words "first" "last" "always" into Google, and you'll be surprised at the amount of stuff that comes back. It's just a well known phrase, nothing special, no hidden meaning, none of that stuff.
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nodubmanshouts wrote:I've read that "Marian" was a piece of music/ style of music played by the band on the deck of The Titanic as the ship went down. If you watch the (insert personal opinion) movie Titanic, somebody mentions this. The lyrics to Marian make an awful lot of sense if this is related...
Where did you read this? What style of music is "Marian"? The popular myth is that they played "Nearer My God To Thee" as they went under. Besides, I always thought "Marian" to be Anne-Marie of the Skeletal Family.

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i have been singing FALAA all afternoon which raised some eyebrows with my colleagues
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nodubmanshouts wrote:I've read that "Marian" was a piece of music/ style of music played by the band on the deck of The Titanic as the ship went down. If you watch the (insert personal opinion) movie Titanic, somebody mentions this. The lyrics to Marian make an awful lot of sense if this is related...

I believe "First And Last And Always" was a phrase used during Prohibition as a kind "Yeah, right" to any questions as to whether or not you'd consumed alcohol. I've no where it comes from, or its significance to the rest of the lyrics though...

food for thought :)
One strange thing came to my mind. One night, 9 years ago, I tippled with my friends at my home and listened to Sisters. Suddenly one of them asked: "What the f*** is that?" It was "Marian". The friend of mine, who asked it was an archaeology student, he had been on excavations on one Estonian island Saaremaa which lies in the Baltic sea, it's a place were men had been sailors since vikings era. My friend told that in this island, while they boozed with local drunkards, those men used to tootle accordion and sing a primitive song which had only 4 words "Miks jätsid mind, Mariaa-aa-naa?", i. e. "Why did you left me, Mariaa-aa-naa?" and the melody... was the same... "Marian" :?
It's quite impossible that those men have ever heard The Sisters Of Mercy. At first I thought, maybe it was an old sailors tune, then I start to believe my friend was just so drunken that mixed up everyhting... Now, reading the above post, I recall it again...
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Sorry, I don't have references to the Titanic thingy, though I'm sure its mentioned in the movie (anybody have a copy they want to watch?)

However, regarding the Estonian Island sailors... as Quiff Boy puts it...

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Maybe it's just bulls*** what I told. Can't confirm anything. Maybe the song my friend had heard had just a similar name in the ;D lyrics and it just seemed to his drunk mind that it was the same melody...
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I did a search for Saaremaa and Marian, and came up with a page which was in a very, very strange language. Anybody speak Saaremaaian? :D
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nodubmanshouts wrote:I did a search for Saaremaa and Marian, and came up with a page which was in a very, very strange language. Anybody speak Saaremaaian? :D
I repeated your search. The first response was in Finnish, the following ones were in a strange language usually called... Estonian ;D
But that's true - the language people use in that island is quite different from the language spoken in the majority of Estonia (not talking about South Estonia where they speak in their own way). The main difference appears in the pronouncing.
But I'm afraid we have gone too far from Sisters lyrics...
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Perhaps the German verse of Marian was so done because Andy got frustrated trying to do it in Estonian? :D
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nodubmanshouts wrote:Perhaps the German verse of Marian was so done because Andy got frustrated trying to do it in Estonian? :D
I think he decided to learn Mandarin after misfortune with Estonian ;D
Went to Leeds and... you know, how the story continues ;D :wink:
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So what you're saying is, the difficulty of the Estonian language is directly responsible for all of our record collections?

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nodubmanshouts wrote:So what you're saying is, the difficulty of the Estonian language is directly responsible for all of our record collections?

:eek: :D
Well, it's complicated enough ;D
If I don't mistake there's only one Heartlander who can speak it and another who have forgotten it :wink:
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nodubmanshouts wrote:So what you're saying is, the difficulty of the Estonian language is directly responsible for all of our record collections?

:eek: :D
Well, it's complicated enough ;D
If I don't mistake there's only one Heartlander who can speak it and another who have forgotten it :wink:
And another who would happily learn it. :wink:
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