Literature

Does exactly what it says on the tin. Some of the nonsense contained herein may be very loosely related to The Sisters of Mercy, but I wouldn't bet your PayPal account on it. In keeping with the internet's general theme nothing written here should be taken as Gospel: over three quarters of it is utter gibberish, and most of the forum's denizens haven't spoken to another human being face-to-face for decades. Don't worry your pretty little heads about it. Above all else, remember this: You don't have to stay forever. I will understand.
User avatar
Elystan
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 108
Joined: 01 Apr 2010, 13:33

Favourite books anyone?

Surprisingly enough I'm a fan of gothic lit. The first wave, you know, before vampires got popular. The embryonic state of fiction at the time makes for poorly written prose but I love it anyway. I really don't dig vampires. The whole pale skin, massive leather coat and ability to spit up blood on demand plays well into the modern fascination with vampires and if it helps me get laid so much the better but I once read Dracula and decided 'never again'.

Other favourites include Kafka and Dostoevksy. The Idiot is my favourite book of his so far. More romantic than philosophical perhaps but I enjoyed it.

As for non-fiction I've read a lot of philosophy, mostly Plato, Nietschze and Russell, as much as they contradict one another. I don't really have concrete opinions of my own, I vacillate between extremes.

I've also read a lot about occultism, which is not quite fiction but not quite truth either. I think there's some value in it. Crowley, the most famous exponent, I'm not so big on and I've mostly read about authors rather than the authors themselves. John Dee and Giordano BRuno are two figures that intrigue me. I've found some of Brunos writing and it is actually rather good. Another title I've been able to lay hands on is Marsilio Ficino's Book of Life. Astrology was a subject I had until then ignored but I found a lot of value in the book.

Oh and also worthy of mention is Carl Jung, who goes some way to making the 'fluffier' stuff make some sort of sense and seem valid.
User avatar
James Blast
Banned
Posts: 24699
Joined: 11 Jun 2003, 18:58
Location: back from some place else

Clive James, Bill Bryson, David Sedaris, Stuart Maconie, Ian Rankin, Irvine Welsh - nothing too heavy like your bollix
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
User avatar
Elystan
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 108
Joined: 01 Apr 2010, 13:33

Bartek wrote:you're a "fan" of Plato?
Heh, not really. I read a few dialogues when I was younger. It's a good starting point for the study of philosophy because it's kind of the starting point of philosophy.

Last actual work of philosophy I read was Thus Spake Zarathustra a year or two ago. Since then it's been mostly fiction.
User avatar
emilystrange
Above the Chemist
Posts: 9031
Joined: 03 Nov 2003, 20:26
Location: Lady Strange's boudoir.

austen, peake, thackeray, gaskell, cather, dante, homer, virgil, brent dyer, tolkein and rowling.

:D
I don't wanna live like I don't mind
User avatar
Elystan
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 108
Joined: 01 Apr 2010, 13:33

emilystrange wrote:peake
Ooh good call did you watch the Gormenghast miniseries?
User avatar
emilystrange
Above the Chemist
Posts: 9031
Joined: 03 Nov 2003, 20:26
Location: Lady Strange's boudoir.

no, not yet, had nothing to record to record it on :(
I don't wanna live like I don't mind
User avatar
Elystan
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 108
Joined: 01 Apr 2010, 13:33

Torrent that s**t! Or get a DVD or something. It's worth it. Very different to the book though. It almost feels like they're different characters behaving the same way.
Bartek
Underneath the Rock
Posts: 6141
Joined: 17 Sep 2005, 10:47

Elystan wrote:
Bartek wrote:you're a "fan" of Plato?
Heh, not really. I read a few dialogues when I was younger. It's a good starting point for the study of philosophy because it's kind of the starting point of philosophy.

Last actual work of philosophy I read was Thus Spake Zarathustra a year or two ago. Since then it's been mostly fiction.
that's good cause Plato was a twit.
User avatar
emilystrange
Above the Chemist
Posts: 9031
Joined: 03 Nov 2003, 20:26
Location: Lady Strange's boudoir.

i saw a little bit. it seemed too - light.
and jonathan rhys meyer is too pretty to be steerpike
I don't wanna live like I don't mind
User avatar
Elystan
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 108
Joined: 01 Apr 2010, 13:33

emilystrange wrote:i saw a little bit. it seemed too - light.
and jonathan rhys meyer is too pretty to be steerpike
I can see how that would be a problem if you'd read the books first. I saw the drama first. Like I say - almost like different characters playing out the same story. Fuschia is also much prettier in the drama. Oh well.
User avatar
psichonaut
Overbomber
Posts: 2703
Joined: 29 Mar 2007, 20:37
Location: somewhere in time in italy
Contact:

Castaneda, Leopardi, Patricia Cornwell, Agatha Christie, Baudelaire, Rimbaud, Foscolo, Pascoli, Grisham
thanks...my Lord...i'm unbeliver
tear up your pants for psicho...and jump on him
User avatar
weebleswobble
Underneath the Rock
Posts: 5875
Joined: 09 Feb 2006, 06:57
Location: The Bat-Milk Cave
Contact:

Marco, Merrick, Terry-Lee...
‎"We will wear some very loud shirts. We will wear some very wrong trousers."
User avatar
emilystrange
Above the Chemist
Posts: 9031
Joined: 03 Nov 2003, 20:26
Location: Lady Strange's boudoir.

Elystan wrote:
I can see how that would be a problem if you'd read the books first. I saw the drama first. Like I say - almost like different characters playing out the same story. Fuschia is also much prettier in the drama. Oh well.
yeah. had been reading the books for about 20 years by then.
I don't wanna live like I don't mind
User avatar
Debaser
Overbomber
Posts: 4660
Joined: 30 Jan 2002, 00:00
Location: Lincoln. UK

Stig of the Dump
Five cups of coffee just to be myself...when I'd rather be somebody else
User avatar
boudicca
Sister Midnight
Posts: 7427
Joined: 15 Sep 2004, 16:15
Location: embrace the margin
Contact:

My obsessive childhood love of fiction vanished in my early teens along with my sunny disposition, my freckles and (I can only assume) a large chunk of my immortal soul. Never mind. These days I can't seem to follow a plot to save myself and read non-fiction almost exclusively. Mainly my dad's fantastic collection of books which he amassed whilst doing a philosophy/humanities degree with the OU, dense psychological texts that would put most people to sleep but which I find endlessly fascinating, books on Zen Buddhism and atheism, some sociological and feminist writers, and some popular science.

When I do bother with "literature" as in fiction I like to make sure it's good, so I tend to go for the classics - Dostoyevsky, Orwell, Aldous Huxley, Arthur Koestler. However, it's been a good two years since I last read a fictional text :eek:
There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets
User avatar
mh
Above the Chemist
Posts: 8123
Joined: 23 Jun 2003, 14:41
Location: A city built on rock 'n' roll

weebleswobble wrote:Marco, Merrick, Terry-Lee...
Ignore Weebs, he's from the Naughty North.

Me, I like books with pictures in them. ;D
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
User avatar
James Blast
Banned
Posts: 24699
Joined: 11 Jun 2003, 18:58
Location: back from some place else

I do drawings for a living
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
User avatar
weebleswobble
Underneath the Rock
Posts: 5875
Joined: 09 Feb 2006, 06:57
Location: The Bat-Milk Cave
Contact:

mh wrote:
weebleswobble wrote:Marco, Merrick, Terry-Lee...
Ignore Weebs, he's from the Naughty North.

Me, I like books with pictures in them. ;D
do these pages fold out?
‎"We will wear some very loud shirts. We will wear some very wrong trousers."
User avatar
randdebiel²
Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 860
Joined: 08 Jul 2003, 09:14
Location: Brussels

Isaac Asimov, James Joyce, Jean-Paul Sartre, Neal Stephenson, Terry Pratchett, Haruki Murakami (sometimes) are the first that come to mind, so probably my faves
shiny, shiny, shiny boots of leather....
User avatar
Silver_Owl
The Don
Posts: 7498
Joined: 27 Sep 2003, 18:52

Binchey, Jonker, Cartland, Anon.
We forgive as we forget
As the day is long.
DeWinter
Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 920
Joined: 16 Oct 2005, 20:57

I did force myself (and I mean force) to read Crime and Punishment. It's hard to be to interested when you don't like a single charachter in a work of fiction, they were all so unpleasant. To me it just read as the authors sometime contradictory opinions in the mouths of others.

Gormenghast was brilliant, perhaps the final book was a bit sloppy, but I remember hearing it was written after his war experiences, and they unsettled his mind. It's a shame as there were supposedly other books planned. I remember finding Dr Prunesquallor immensely likable, for no reason I'm quite aware of. Perfect casting in the tv version too, John Sessions.

As for Nietzche, I can imagine Ann Rand and Mrs T being groupies.

Personally I go for Pratchett, Gaiman, Wodehouse, Dickens, Jim Butcher, and when my brain needs turning into mush, Agatha Christie.

At the mo am reading a collection of Greek Mythology. All the Greek gods did was shag around. It seems if you were a woman or pretty boy you had to be careful every time you bent over in case Zeus seized the opportunity.
"Vengeance. Justice. Fire and blood.."
User avatar
lazarus corporation
Lord Protector
Posts: 3444
Joined: 09 May 2004, 17:42
Location: out there on a darkened road
Contact:

DeWinter wrote:Gormenghast was brilliant, perhaps the final book was a bit sloppy, but I remember hearing it was written after his war experiences, and they unsettled his mind. It's a shame as there were supposedly other books planned. I remember finding Dr Prunesquallor immensely likable, for no reason I'm quite aware of. Perfect casting in the tv version too, John Sessions.
I think the third book was unfinished by Peake before he died, and was published after his death in the state it had reached: an early manuscript draft - presumably he would have spent far more time redrafting it had he lived longer.
User avatar
Erudite
Slight Overbomber
Posts: 1952
Joined: 24 Apr 2002, 01:00
Location: Lost In Space

Many through the years - George Orwell, Neil Gaiman, Michael Moorcock, Tolkein, Terry Pratchett, Neil Gunn, Ian Rankin, Raymond Chandler and Iain Banks to name a few.
I was even rather partial to Sven Hassel in my teenage years.
You are what you drink - I'm a bitter man!
User avatar
psichonaut
Overbomber
Posts: 2703
Joined: 29 Mar 2007, 20:37
Location: somewhere in time in italy
Contact:

weebleswobble wrote:Marco
:eek: :eek:
thanks...my Lord...i'm unbeliver
tear up your pants for psicho...and jump on him
Post Reply