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Had mine today. AZ. I feel ok so far.
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Side effects update (J&J): slight temperature last night, fever dreams (in glorious 8K technicolour with SurroundSound), woke up this morning feeling fine.
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Glad you had an easier time of it than I did!
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26 hours since I had mine and no side effects so far.
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just a quick question... those of you who have received the jab may i ask how you got it? did you get the request from the government or did you / your employer pay for it?
the reason i am asking is it seems different countries are doing it differently and certain groups are going first depending on career or age group.

so to read the various approved vaccines are been used in all countries but then again targeted at the different groups.
here we go again....
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In the UK (Leeds) I received a text today telling me to contact my GP to arrange my first jab. I'm 56, and I know others locally of a similar age who are arranging same. In Cheshire I know people under 40 have been done already and in Scotland people slightly older than me still wait in a queue. So it seems quite variable across this country.
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ribbons69 wrote:
30 Jan 2021, 18:52
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this is a virus that will mutate for the coming time and something the world will have to live with as this virus is clever.

As does the Flu of course. I have to have a new jab every year because it is always mutating. Covid- 19 will be the same, we will have to have new injections every year.
exactly! so because of the mutating and the fact of how long the Covid vaccination has it effect this will become a yearly jab.

however, if you think about it there aren't enough vaccines at the moment and the richer countries have ordered too many and the poorer countries can't afford to get the first round for all citizens.

the pharmaceutical industry is exploding in profits now but even they cannot catch up in making the product and worldwide not everyone is in the advantage most of us are sitting in.

living in the Netherlands i will only be called to have the jab in the distant future and seriously would rather have my kids (19 & 21) having the jab before me as the both work in grocery shops and come in contact with all people.
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I hope they're working on a tablet as I am terrified of injections.
Last time I was at the dentist, they only had to take the syringe out of the packet & I passed out. :oops: :(
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Swinnow wrote:
12 Mar 2021, 22:22
In the UK (Leeds) I received a text today telling me to contact my GP to arrange my first jab. I'm 56, and I know others locally of a similar age who are arranging same. In Cheshire I know people under 40 have been done already and in Scotland people slightly older than me still wait in a queue. So it seems quite variable across this country.
thanks Swinnow so it seems it depends on age, how quickly they can get it done, meaning actually the resources and logistic operation that goes with it. here it's first the medical workers first then those working with the elderly, the elderly and so it seeps further. before the whole tiny country is vaccinated we are looking at early next year which living in a first world country is ridiculous!
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Pista wrote:
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I hope they're working on a tablet as I am terrified of injections.
Last time I was at the dentist, they only had to take the syringe out of the packet & I passed out. :oops: :(
but why terrified of injections? it's just a slight prick then slight muscle pain afterwards.
there is a tablet form here mainly for the kids that were asked to get the vaccine when the UK mutation was here in a school. they will eventually produce a tablet form for adults.

lol dentist injections are totally different though and i feel your pain when the objective is to numb you in the mouth. difference in mouth or arm dear.
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I'll.add, I know plenty of medics (doctors and nurses) in both Yorkshire and Merseyside who were vaccinated in early Jan. Correctly imho to do the vaccinators first.
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Swinnow wrote:
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I'll.add, I know plenty of medics (doctors and nurses) in both Yorkshire and Merseyside who were vaccinated in early Jan. Correctly imho to do the vaccinators first.
oh but of course, totally agree that they should be the first, working in the hart of it all to save lives whilst putting themselves at risk.

the only thing that keeps me worried as a mother is the fact that it should also be the working staff at the grocery shops. we are in lockdown and these people are also subjected to all public. obviously anyone working with the sick or elderly should be first but when you look at it i would give up my place for them first.
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MadameButterfly wrote:
12 Mar 2021, 21:28
just a quick question... those of you who have received the jab may i ask how you got it? did you get the request from the government or did you / your employer pay for it?
the reason i am asking is it seems different countries are doing it differently and certain groups are going first depending on career or age group.

so to read the various approved vaccines are been used in all countries but then again targeted at the different groups.
I received a phonecall from my GP (General Practitioner - my local doctor) to arrange an appointment for the next day. When the UK started the vaccinations they had the aim of doing a million a week, but now they're up to maybe 5(?) million a week. At the beginning they started with the oldest people and started working their way down, but also prioritising other 'vulnerable groups' such as people with long-term illnesses, compromised immune systems, etc. I think medical workers also got priority, but there was a bit of a hoo-hah that teachers didn't get theirs early too. They should have, and it should have been extended to anyone with an occupation where they're expected to meet large amounts of the public. If the govermnent want the economy to get moving again the least they could do was prioritise people who are expected to encounter many people per day, like supermarket checkout workers etc. A month ago there was a report that they were moving on to the 50-59 age group in March, so it looks like they're managing a decade a month so 40-49's should get theirs in April. I've not heard anything about the different vaccines targeted against different groups, it seems to depend on what's available on any given day.
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12 Mar 2021, 22:40
I hope they're working on a tablet as I am terrified of injections.
Last time I was at the dentist, they only had to take the syringe out of the packet & I passed out. :oops: :(
When I had mine done I looked away and didn't even look at the syringe. Then I stared at a painting on the wall, examining the brush strokes until it was over. If you look at the syringe first then look away it means the last thing you saw was the syringe - and it's harder to take your mind off it.
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MadameButterfly wrote:
12 Mar 2021, 21:28
just a quick question... those of you who have received the jab may i ask how you got it? did you get the request from the government or did you / your employer pay for it?
the reason i am asking is it seems different countries are doing it differently and certain groups are going first depending on career or age group.

so to read the various approved vaccines are been used in all countries but then again targeted at the different groups.
Local government has tiers of priority. I fall into group 1B, under the age of 65 but with a "comorbidity". Once they opened the eligibility to that group then you could make an appointment (assuming you could find somewhere - appointments would get booked up within seconds of being available, and lot of places could do you a second shot but not a first). Then at the beginning of March they opened a 24-hour vaccine centre in a local trade/exhibition centre - during the day they were dispensing the variant that needed 2 shots, overnight it was the J&J variety. Free at the point of delivery, they do ask for your insurance details (I don't know if they wind up billing the carrier) but if you don't have insurance you can still get vaccinated. One of the few times when our governor actually manages to deliver something without setting fire to it and throwing it in the river first - presumably he's hoping that this will make up for the fact that he's being accused on all sides of sexual harassments (spoiler alert: it won't).
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I got a text from my GP and followed the link to book. Got done today.
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markfiend wrote:
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Oh I forgot to mention that I did get the vaccine on Sunday - I got the Pfizer one and I can now hear Bill Gates's thoughts. ;)
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:lol: no he sounds like a whiny nerd :lol:
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emilystrange wrote:
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I got a text from my GP and followed the link to book. Got done today.
yep, that's how i was notified too
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Had the AstraZeneca vaccination on Saturday following a text from the GP. No ill effects to report except a slight shoulder ache.

I even took my leather jacket off for the jab, which is rarely done in public.
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That in itself is liable to cause you shock
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I have to say I'm mega disappointed in various governments suspending the AZ injection for no reason. It's safe. This is just pandering to the antivaccine conspiracy theorists.
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You think that whole countries are halting AZ because of 'conspiracy theories'?

It's rather normal, to me, to minimize possible damages if there's a doubt, and when there's an alternative (technically and logically it's not alternative when it's more than one option [j&j, Pfizer, moderna], but you get my point) harm for public health is lot more smaller.

My wife, because she's "lucky" but be after transplantation, will have this Saturday jab (docs agreed there too high risk for this group to get AZ vaccine).
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The UK MHRA, WHO and European Medicines Licensing body all agree there is no increased risk from the Oxford/AZ jab. It's petty politics interfering with science again. A subject we are all far too familiar with in the UK nowadays.

Bartek, more importantly I wish your wife well.

(edited to correct spelling of "medicines", you would never guess I worked in pharmaceutical compliance for many years would you? :lol: )
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re: AZ and blood clots

this is a very quick (about 2 mins) summary of the reality:

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Bartek wrote:
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You think that whole countries are halting AZ because of 'conspiracy theories'?
Yes I do actually. There's no scientific reason whatsoever to stop the AZ vaccine. The blood clots thing is entirely coincidental; people who have had the vaccine are actually less likely to have a blood clot than people who haven't had it.

Edit to add: I see @QB's video says the same thing.
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