Is Andrew Eldritch a good role model?

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@Pista you could’ve been his body double. I think you all should post your picture from that time, would be interesting to see. Also, rock musicians aren’t supposed to be role models, that’s not their responsibility
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That’s a very good point.
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Got to read poetry and stuff
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Or restrict your viewing to olde worlde Dr Who and back to back Space 1999.
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I’ve never heard of Space 1999, not sure what that’s about. So, no one else wants to post their 1980’s pictures? 👨🏻‍🎤 I know I don’t lol, but we didn’t have TSOM. A couple of Axl’s and Michael Jackson’s, but mostly Def Leppard fans. (Parents, it is up to parents to be role models. And maybe once upon a time teachers, but not some of these we have now who try to indoctrinate)
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Swinnow wrote:
19 Sep 2020, 16:40
Space 1999.
Now THAT was show. The interceptor was a cool space rocket ship fighter thing
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I’ve never heard of Space 1999, not sure what that’s about.
80s sci fi kids space show on Saturday mornings by Gerry Anderson (I think) Sure it was an American import
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So, no one else wants to post their 1980’s pictures?
Oh I have pictures. Looking like a Sigue Sigue Sputnik reject during that era. Pretty sad. I’ll see if I can scan some in. Should be good for a laugh
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I don’t think Sigue Sigue woulda rejected anyone judging by the way they looked in the posters I had/ still have. I guess I was probably watching the Brady bunch as a kid or The Osmonds :| (my mom got into the Mormon church for several years). Aight, I do wonder what the heck kind of clogs you could possibly have been referring to
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i would imagine it's the type of clogs that New Model Army used to wear:

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which were not dissimilar to these:

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Most cloggies (is that a word?) in the north of England bought their NMA-style clogs from Walkleys Clogs Mill near Hebden Bridge, in Yorkshire. It was only a few miles from where NMA came from and it's where (I gather) they got theirs.

They had what amounted to a lifetime guarantee as you could get them re-soled for pennies if they ever wore down. Which is probably another reason why NMA wore them, in addition to the aesthetic.

http://www.clogs.co.uk/boot%20clogs.htm

I remember hearing Walkleys went bust a quite a few years a back though, and the old factory mill burned down last year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-49195966

Which is all quite sad really.

While they were open you could take a walking tour of the factory mill itself - it was quite a touristy thing to do, and quite popular with goff types because of the NMA connection.

I'm pretty sure I remember hearing that during the early 90s it was NMA fans who kept the company in business :lol: but that may not have been the full truth.

I always had more of a Danny Ash mashed up with Eldritch style myself (maybe mashed up with a hint of P**l King from Ros***a Stone), but I did occasionally sport a Jonny Slut Specimen/Degville Sputnik look :D
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I think Justin would recoil from.any 'goth' affiliation :lol:. Memory has him describing NMA to my youngest as a 'blues band'.

NMA confederate Jools was certainly a bit more gothic back in the day.

Admirable people though, however you colour them.
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she's a bit terfy for me these days, sadly.

and justin calling themselves a 'blues band' only proves how goff they are.
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Quiff Boy wrote:
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i would imagine it's the type of clogs that New Model Army used to wear:

which were not dissimilar to these:

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Exactly. That warms the cockles of my heart. Best shoes I ever wore, so comfortable, but an absolute bitch to get any traction on icy streets. Think I bought mine somewhere in Camden
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I remember hearing Walkleys went bust a quite a few years a back though, and the old factory mill burned down last year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-49195966

Which is all quite sad really.
Oh that is very sad news.
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ImageOk, gotcha. Sort of like doc martens, which I wouldn’t mind having a pair of these Black Sabbath ones
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i guess the uppers are a bit like docs, but more typically they're like old army boots (often they're made using the uppers from old german army boots)

the soles are pure wood though, and nailed onto the upper

none of that "airware" comfort sole nonsense there :lol:
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Ohhhhh, I guess that explains the clog part, well that is interesting
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also keep in mind this was a time before you could get gel insoles :lol:

wearing these buggers was most definitely not like wearing sketchers ;)
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Quiff Boy wrote:
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also keep in mind this was a time before you could get gel insoles :lol:

wearing these buggers was most definitely not like wearing sketchers ;)
I can imagine, I’ve had to wear high heels before, never again lol:
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Yeah infinitely less comfortable than creepers. Ha.
Skirting back toward the role model side of things, Chris Catalyst said last night that Eldritch always wanted to be a gay icon. I'd loved for him to have expanded on the subject a bit more, but alas, no. If you're part of an industrial groove machine gay icon is infinitely cooler than good role model.
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Infinitely, there.
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These boots looks nasty uncomfortable.
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Clogs were very handy for kicking things when the fash came calling :twisted:

*Edit: so I understand :ahem: Not me, I'm a lover not a fighter ;D
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markfiend wrote:
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Clogs were very handy for kicking things when the fash came calling :twisted:

*Edit: so I understand :ahem: Not me, I'm a lover not a fighter ;D
Well they did serve a purpose in that front. They looked and sounded quite intimidating. They had an air of ‘dont Farque with me’ about them
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Yeah infinitely less comfortable than creepers. Ha.
Skirting back toward the role model side of things, Chris Catalyst said last night that Eldritch always wanted to be a gay icon. I'd loved for him to have expanded on the subject a bit more, but alas, no. If you're part of an industrial groove machine gay icon is infinitely cooler than good role model.
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Clogs were very handy for kicking things when the fash came calling :twisted:

*Edit: so I understand :ahem: Not me, I'm a lover not a fighter ;D
Seen someone on the wrong side of a fight with clogs. Not at all pretty
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paint it black wrote:
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sam donut wrote:
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Yeah infinitely less comfortable than creepers. Ha.
Skirting back toward the role model side of things, Chris Catalyst said last night that Eldritch always wanted to be a gay icon. I'd loved for him to have expanded on the subject a bit more, but alas, no. If you're part of an industrial groove machine gay icon is infinitely cooler than good role model.
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Didn't think so. Chris just mentioned it on his lock down gig the other night. He didn't expand any further, really. Maybe he just thought it would be cool.
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markfiend wrote:
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Clogs were very handy for kicking things when the fash came calling :twisted:

*Edit: so I understand :ahem: Not me, I'm a lover not a fighter ;D
Seen someone on the wrong side of a fight with clogs. Not at all pretty
Eek. I bet.
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