run off grooves

[paint it black]

for you ppl too young or too sensible to be interested in records, i'm not going to even atempt to explain what a run off groove is.

However, in days of yore indie bands used to scrawl all sorts of crap on their records.

Here's the Sisters efforts. Enjoy

Damage done 7�

for Spiggy
a nudder prime cut for Trixie

Alice 7�

for Spiggy flash that ash
Kenny Giles walks on water

Anaconda 7�

nothing
Spiggy rides again

Alice 12"
im westen nichts neues – jesus loves the sisters, mein irisch kind, wo weilest du?
for Spiggy (foreign field)

Reptile house EP

for Spiggy paint in black

Temple 7�

gonzoid amphetamine filth is dead
for Spiggy

Temple 12�

for Spiggy
long live gonzoid amphetamine filth

[Debaser]

'Porky's Prime Cuts' were on NUMEROUS Stiff singles and albums.

I really can't be buggered to look up others though....some of my very early Human League stuff has some ramblings on.

Debaser

[dead stars]

Why was this fixation on Spiggy? ??:
I mean, i should know. But in ones seems thecat is still alive. In others, seems to have already departured.
Who knows when Spiggy died exactly?

(Me and my difficult questions! )

[lachert]

I think He's dead already. :mad:

[zigeunerweisen]

On Aug 22, 2002 8:28pm, paint it black wrote:
for you ppl too young or too sensible to be interested in records, i'm not going to even atempt to explain what a run off groove is.

Huu, actually, i never heard that term before.

[Erudite]

I don't know the exact RIP date but I recall Eldritch stating in an interview that Spiggy (his cat) was found dead more or less as follows:

One day a neighbour said, "Is that your cat on my doorstep."
And it was. Very tragic.


@ Ziggy.

It possibly doesn't have a good translation. The run out groove on a vinyl record is the last inch or so that the needle skips reasonably soundlessly across after the recording has finished, before the arm lifts itself off.
Indie bands had a habit of scratching all sorts of obscure (none more so than the Sisters) messages onto this part of the acetate.

[zigeunerweisen]

Thanks
Now, that stuff IS weird. Did he have a fixation with the cat?

[dead stars]

On Aug 23, 2002 10:04pm, zigeunerweisen wrote:
Thanks
Now, that stuff IS weird. Did he have a fixation with the cat?

A fixation?! Mentioning the cat in so many records, I'd call it love!

[lachert]

http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/gen ... /grim1.htm

[dead stars]

On Aug 24, 2002 5:34am, lachert wrote:
http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/gen ... /grim1.htm

Oh yeah! That's definitely the finest example of God's humour I've seen so far!

[James Blast]

weirdest run out scrawl I ever saw was on the 23 Skidoo noisefest Culling Is Coming :-

'command as f*ck'

it also had a locked groove halfway through one of the sides so the wall of white noise just went on and on

[DerekR]

The mother of all vinyl scratchings has to be the B side of We've Got A Fuzzbox's first EP - cartoon versions of the girls etched into the vinyl, nothing else, no tracks

Not strictly a run off groove but still cool.

I think I still have in somewhere <hunts>

[Dan]

The mother of all vinyl scratchings has to be the B side of We've Got A Fuzzbox's first EP - cartoon versions of the girls etched into the vinyl, nothing else, no tracks

Not strictly a run off groove but still cool.

I think I still have in somewhere <hunts>

Oh Yes! I've got that record. I liked Fuzzbox, still do. A sort-of claim to fame is that the first 3 tracks on CD2 of "Rules & Regulations to Pink Sunshine. The Fuzzbox Story" come from a cassette I once gave to Maggie Fuzzbox. The cassette contained 2 of their gigs, but unfortunately on the CD it's credited to the wrong gig

[Dan]

Some runoff groove messages not mentioned in the first post in this thread-

Body & Soul 12" - B: "for spiggy + alan vega"

Gift - A: "a gift from the raspberry reich" and "verteidigungskrieg"
B: "...und jetzt können wir vielleicht schlafen, oder?"

This Corrosion 7" - "i'll be picking up your petals in another few hours"

Lucretia 7" - A: "philadelphia crystal logic"
B: "fifty six coaches long"

Lucretia 12" - A: "more more more more stupid guitars"
B: "young gifted and tied to the track"

The m*****n also had messages on their runoff grooves, but here is not the place to list those, so I won't.

[Dark]

Some runoff groove messages not mentioned in the first post in this thread-

Body & Soul 12" - B: "for spiggy + alan vega".

*gets out his Body And Soul* Hmm... All of the ROGIs on it are.. (going anti-clockwise)

A Side- MR0-29T-A1 ; ARUN ; DAMONT ; MT; And uber-faintly around the very edge of the run-off, theres a 2 and 3.

B Side- For Spiggy + Alan Vega ; what looks like "A/T" ; MR0-29 (T)-AA-1 ; another very faint 2 ; and an almost invisibly faint DAMONT.


Yeah, I'm obsessive.

[lazarus corporation]

For ther terminally obsessive:

Long Train flexi: FLX 391-1

Dr Jeep 12" (ltd ed): THE EXCHANGE - R.S.

[James Blast]

can someone explain this one to me:
23 Skidoo - Culling Is Coming - r-o-g Command As Fuck

[The Pope]

DAMONT and MT. are on both sides of the Walk Away/Poison Door/On the Wire 12". Also some ones and twos. And little asterisks on either side of the catalog numbers.

What is DAMONT?

Oh, and anyone know who is the one to actually scratch this stuff in the run off grooves? Just the guy who worked the vinyl pressing machine or, dare I say, someone holier...

[The Pope]

Forget last question, I just read the answer in the Blocking Grooves thread.

[James Blast]

in my day it was usually someone known as "porky"

[Rivers]

A Porky Primecut, yes I remember Was it mostly Virgin Records stuff that had this?

[solitude]

A Porky Primecut, yes I remember Was it mostly Virgin Records stuff that had this?

In 1986, I once had the pleasure of the company of Porky one morning at his studio at Portland Place, London.
He was mastering a record for me, does'nt matter what record but let's put it this way, I asked him not to put his trademark on the run off groove.
He was a really funny guy but then again, he was already pissed by 9.30 am.
His Studio walls were adorned with framed record sleeves that he had mastered
Memorable experience

[nigel d]

"malcontent" by the band "soulbossa" had a band members telephone number in the run off groove, i rang it ,and said i liked the record , they were well pleased.

[markfiend]

I remember Q magazine had an article on ROG messages in the dim and distant past; a record by someone (Elvis Costello? Maybe) had his record company's boss' personal phone number in the ROG because the artist concerned had had a falling out with him...

Or did I dream that?

[Gottdammerung]

Hmm... the art of making records is a little lost these days.. I have an unusual Finitribe 12" that when it finishes, theres a locked groove of a churchbell and background noise.. you can actually forget its playing sometimes..

And then there's a twin spiral 12" I have, where two tracks have been laid side to side on the same side and its pot luck which one starts off..

Its a complete bastard to mix with I tell you!