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A brilliant idea, RAF!
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Thanks, Jürgen. It also took me 22 years to realize this, so it had better be a good train of thought, mhehe... ;D
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Incometh... ;D
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Ahráyeph wrote:Thanks, Jürgen. It also took me 22 years to realize this, so it had better be a good train of thought, mhehe... ;D
So you have trains of thought?
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You really think I'd rely on Belgian public transportation to take care of my thoughts? I've got my own train for that, yessirree! ;D
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Ahráyeph wrote:You really think I'd rely on Belgian public transportation to take care of my thoughts? I've got my own train for that, yessirree! ;D
is the title of a Tangerine Dream album involved?


it is, isn't it :innocent:
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James Blast wrote:
Ahráyeph wrote:You really think I'd rely on Belgian public transportation to take care of my thoughts? I've got my own train for that, yessirree! ;D
is the title of a Tangerine Dream album involved?


it is, isn't it :innocent:
fekin' prog rockers :roll: :wink:
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weebleswobble wrote:fekin' prog rockers :roll: :wink:
nivir did like ye, onywise :wink:
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James Blast wrote:
weebleswobble wrote:fekin' prog rockers :roll: :wink:
nivir did like ye, onywise :wink:
MasterBlaster-you have a stonkin' gonzoid time! :notworthy: :notworthy:

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weebleswobble wrote: must attempt sleep (again) :urff:
why start now Stephen? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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James Blast wrote:
weebleswobble wrote: must attempt sleep (again) :urff:
why start now Stephen? :lol: :lol: :lol:
A futile few hours :urff: :urff:
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markfiend wrote:
Episkopos wrote:** - I swear I've heard "in her party dressed to kill, she thanks you" on a couple of live versions, but I can't quite remember which.
It's always "dressed to kill" isn't it?
Yep. The song always changes "Alice in her party dress, thanks you kindly, so serene" to "Alice in her party, dressed to kill, she thanks you, turns away" the second time the pre-chorus kicks in.
Hmm... *relistens to Some Girls... version*

Dead right. My ears must be on the blink again...
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Episkopos wrote:
dead stars wrote:Could anyone post the correct lyrics for Alice?
[snip]
Tell her where the sun shines bright and tell her she can have it all today...
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I am not entirely sure and it may sound a little nit-picky, but shouldn't it be:
"Tell her where the sunshine's bright"

With "bright" being an adjective and all.
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Lord Emsworth wrote:
Episkopos wrote:
dead stars wrote:Could anyone post the correct lyrics for Alice?
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Tell her where the sun shines bright and tell her she can have it all today...
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I am not entirely sure and it may sound a little nit-picky, but shouldn't it be:
"Tell her where the sunshine's bright"

With "bright" being an adjective and all.
not if sun is the noun and shine is the verb :?: ;)

and nit-picky is what the lyrics section is about :lol:
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but correct grammar would be tell her where the sun shines brightly -- it's an adverb qualifying the verb 'shines'.
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There's been a lot of talk in this thread about religion. Presumably this stems from the tarot line as nothing else even comes close - but Tarot cards aren't used in any religion and have no real association with one. They're used in fortune telling and are otherwise just decorative playing cards but there's no religious connection at all. The association with the crystal in the song (and the use of the word "spread") make clear that it's a reference to fortune telling and probably, in the popular imagination, to the occult in general.
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:lol:

Because Go Ask Alice includes profanity as well as relatively explicit references to runaways, drugs, sex, and rape, conservative parents, activists, and in at least one alleged case a state governor (Sarah Palin, AK)[5] have sought to remove it from school libraries.

Sarah Palin :o
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i thought it was someone :von: knew (once)
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I read an interview where he said the line "Pass the crystal/Spread the tarot/In Illusion comfort lies" was a comment on how black magic is little more than a substitute for intelligence/intelligent comments...summat along those lines.
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Tarot and crystal balls are just devices used by occult practitioners to help with their natural intuition and divination. A lot of wiccans use tarot in this way. Tarot, the I Ching, chicken entrails, they're all used for similar purposes.

It's not entirely appropriate to lump it all in with 'black magic'. :wink:

However if there is the chance that Eldritch is misinformed about this, then it will be reflected in his lyric writing.
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Harvey Winston wrote:Tarot and crystal balls are just devices used by occult practitioners to help with their natural intuition and divination. A lot of wiccans use tarot in this way. Tarot, the I Ching, chicken entrails, they're all used for similar purposes.

It's not entirely appropriate to lump it all in with 'black magic'. :wink:

However if there is the chance that Eldritch is misinformed about this, then it will be reflected in his lyric writing.
maybe he chose to lump them together because of his disdain for such things...
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Quiff Boy wrote: maybe he chose to lump them together because of his disdain for such things...
Ah, I see. So he is an atheist? No belief system - nothing other than the tangible? (nb that's not pejorative - I'm mangling this but I hope you get my drift). Apologies but I know nothing of his views on the subject.
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i don't know, but as far as i can tell he's never been anything other than mocking/critical* about the occult, religious extremism, and the more novelty of mainstream religions (such as creationism).

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i get the impression that religion (be it organised, mainstream or fringe) just doesn't figure into the equation.

he seems a very secular person, more concerned with humanistic matters that have a direct impact on the individual and on society to be bothered about nonsense notions of godhead or the divine :roll:

note his attitudes to animal welfare vs human welfare...
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I've always thought ,just from reading interviews ,etc that AE has an awful lot of common sense.
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