Is apparently even closer to death than his recent public appearances might suggest.
Any thoughts? Anyone care?
The Pope
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I didn't think he'd make it to 2000 and I was wrong.
He's definitely left a legacy; canonised more saints than all the other popes put together IIRC?
There's that list isn't there; some mad prophet back in the 12th century or something made a big list with a choice epithet for each future pope (obviously some of the epithets have to be "stretched" to make them fit). But the next is the last in the list...
Oh here he is. St. Malachy and there are two more after JPII. Then the end of the world
He's definitely left a legacy; canonised more saints than all the other popes put together IIRC?
There's that list isn't there; some mad prophet back in the 12th century or something made a big list with a choice epithet for each future pope (obviously some of the epithets have to be "stretched" to make them fit). But the next is the last in the list...
Oh here he is. St. Malachy and there are two more after JPII. Then the end of the world
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
Immediate response is "How can they tell?"
Personally I don't care, but like it or not the role does have an incredible impact on the world. For instance if a (new?) pope said OK, you can use condoms to prevent HIV transmission then it could make a real difference to the spread of AIDS in vast areas of the planet.
Anyone know who's favourite for the job next, and if he's remotely prgressive?
Personally I don't care, but like it or not the role does have an incredible impact on the world. For instance if a (new?) pope said OK, you can use condoms to prevent HIV transmission then it could make a real difference to the spread of AIDS in vast areas of the planet.
Anyone know who's favourite for the job next, and if he's remotely prgressive?
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If he's a senior vatican cardinal, it's hard to imagine him being progressive.
Keep in mind that the vatican has been effectively run by an invisible cabal during JPII's on-going illness (which seems to have lasted for as long as I can remember). It's fair to assume they will have a major role in steering the conclave so the next Pope will be in their image.
Keep in mind that the vatican has been effectively run by an invisible cabal during JPII's on-going illness (which seems to have lasted for as long as I can remember). It's fair to assume they will have a major role in steering the conclave so the next Pope will be in their image.
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Well Malachy's prophecy (see above) has the next Pope as “De Gloria Olivae� (From the Glory of the Olive) so maybe Cardinal Martini?
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markfiend wrote:Well Malachy's prophecy (see above) has the next Pope as “De Gloria Olivae� (From the Glory of the Olive) so maybe Cardinal Martini?
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It'll be some oily type. But at least know he'll be extra virgin.markfiend wrote:Well Malachy's prophecy (see above) has the next Pope as “De Gloria Olivae” (From the Glory of the Olive) so maybe Cardinal Martini?
/gets coat/
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If you're thinking of Africa, think again. I really don't think it's that simple.ruffers wrote:For instance if a (new?) pope said OK, you can use condoms to prevent HIV transmission then it could make a real difference to the spread of AIDS in vast areas of the planet.
As I understand it there's a deep-bred reluctance to use condoms, preferring anal sex as a form of contraception. Oh yes, and I'm told there's a wide-held belief that having unprotected sex with a virgin will cure a man of aids/ HIV.
And you know that she's half crazy but that's why you want to be there.
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Yup, we now have campaigns to educate people about condoms, but they're either to subtle on late night TV.Francis wrote:If you're thinking of Africa, think again. I really don't think it's that simple.
As I understand it there's a deep-bred reluctance to use condoms, preferring anal sex as a form of contraception. Oh yes, and I'm told there's a wide-held belief that having unprotected sex with a virgin will cure a man of aids/ HIV.
That part about sex with a virgin is a wide spread belief, which may go some way to explain so of the terrible rape statistics here
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It would need not just a decree saying "you're okay to use condoms now", but one saying "you must use condoms now", which would IMO be anathema to large sections of the Catholic Church as a whole. Just look at the radical offshoots that still use Latin Mass and condemn the Second Vatican Council (?) as a liberalising influence.
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As well as curbing the spread of HIV, encouraging (or even tolerating) contraception might help ease the problems caused by population explosion.
But to really bring that under control you need better health care so people believe that if they have two kids, two will survive. Otherwise families will not unreasonably go for larger numbers of offspring in the hope of seeing some of them get through to adulthood.
Can't see the church getting too enthusiastic about involving itself in non-denomonational healthcare for the third world, even though it clearly _should_ be.
But to really bring that under control you need better health care so people believe that if they have two kids, two will survive. Otherwise families will not unreasonably go for larger numbers of offspring in the hope of seeing some of them get through to adulthood.
Can't see the church getting too enthusiastic about involving itself in non-denomonational healthcare for the third world, even though it clearly _should_ be.
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See as most of North Africa is Islamic I can't seem running there eitherandymackem wrote:Can't see the church getting too enthusiastic about involving itself in non-denomonational healthcare for the third world, even though it clearly _should_ be.
I don't care at all about that old man.
Not at all....
Not at all....
I think someone set my soul alight
Africa has it's own issues (which the church as the man said could/should be addressing), but there's problems elsewhere as well. Obvious, I know.
The world's largest Catholic country? Brazil. Efforts to distribute condoms there are obstructed by the Bishops.
see here (first google match btw) http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/brazil/condoms.htm
This is interesting as well -
http://www.cathnews.com/news/501/122.php
The world's largest Catholic country? Brazil. Efforts to distribute condoms there are obstructed by the Bishops.
see here (first google match btw) http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/brazil/condoms.htm
This is interesting as well -
http://www.cathnews.com/news/501/122.php
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I've heard of that list before. Not the end of the world, only the end of the catholic church. When that happens maybe other religions will follow suit and f*ck off too, and the world will be a better place.markfiend wrote:Oh here he is. St. Malachy and there are two more after JPII. Then the end of the world
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I think for a 12th century bishop, it would have amounted to much the same thingDan wrote:Not the end of the world, only the end of the catholic church.
Well, no argument from me on that score!Dan wrote:When that happens maybe other religions will follow suit and f*ck off too, and the world will be a better place.
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
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Here's the next pope: http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/anton-lavey/
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Words cannot express my feelings for the pope. Which is probably a good thing, because none of them would be good.
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Amen.Dan wrote:I've heard of that list before. Not the end of the world, only the end of the catholic church. When that happens maybe other religions will follow suit and f*ck off too, and the world will be a better place.markfiend wrote:Oh here he is. St. Malachy and there are two more after JPII. Then the end of the world