apparently its a style of music.... ??: ??: ??:
i think my depressive ramblings to him on msm have sent him mad......
Are The Sisters g*th or not
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why you drinking in the middle of the day all on your lonesome GS?On Aug 28, 2002 4:43pm, groupie smurph wrote:
there's just summat about drinking on your own in the middle of the day and having a panto style row with someone....
are BTW
Goths have feelings too
cos I'm f**king miserable cos I'm having the worst day of mi life.....
the worlds full of bastards
the worlds full of bastards
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Oh sorry to hear thatOn Aug 28, 2002 4:50pm, groupie smurph wrote:
cos I'm f**king miserable cos I'm having the worst day of mi life.....
the worlds full of bastards
i'm just about to finish another day of hell in the office.
Yipeee hometime looms
still can't think of a more constructive argument than
are, are ,are too - so there
though
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home on the range nowOn Aug 28, 2002 4:57pm, groupie smurph wrote:
NOT!!!!
hic
playing catchup with me tin of Carling
ARE SO
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Funny, as whenever I listen to Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue, I always get the irresistable urge to listen to 'Dominion' straight afterwards....
Thank chuff I aian't got a silver shirt!On Aug 28, 2002 3:25pm, paint it black wrote:
The case against:
Denial - "we're not goth"
One/two silver shirts
Died blonde hair
He's behind you.... bugger wrong line. I'm not comfortable in this folder, just doesn't sit right somehow
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@GS:
"I wear something because I like the way it looks, not because I'm trying to put across a particular image to others."
AHA!!! But when did ol' Android begin hating goffs so enthusiastically (Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?) If they already despised g*ths at that point (1980's), then why did they (IMHO, deliberately) dress in a manner that just *might* (heh) have led others to assume that they were, indeed, g*ths - especially when that mode of dress had already been "adopted" as "goth?"
Granted, as you state, they may also have worn that particular style of clothing merely because they liked it, and nothing more - but my point is, why did they bother? If they'd really despised all things "gothic" even back then, why didn't they wear Day-Glo, er summat, instead?
As far as I'm concerned, it's their own fault that they were saddled with the (now much-abhorred) "gothic" label. What "image" were they trying to project back then, if not a "gothic" one? Doesn't make sense to me...? For better or worse (often worse, especially in these times... ??:
"I wear something because I like the way it looks, not because I'm trying to put across a particular image to others."
AHA!!! But when did ol' Android begin hating goffs so enthusiastically (Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?) If they already despised g*ths at that point (1980's), then why did they (IMHO, deliberately) dress in a manner that just *might* (heh) have led others to assume that they were, indeed, g*ths - especially when that mode of dress had already been "adopted" as "goth?"
Granted, as you state, they may also have worn that particular style of clothing merely because they liked it, and nothing more - but my point is, why did they bother? If they'd really despised all things "gothic" even back then, why didn't they wear Day-Glo, er summat, instead?
As far as I'm concerned, it's their own fault that they were saddled with the (now much-abhorred) "gothic" label. What "image" were they trying to project back then, if not a "gothic" one? Doesn't make sense to me...? For better or worse (often worse, especially in these times... ??:
I left my heart in Ballycastle...
>Funny, as whenever I listen to Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue, I always get the irresistable urge to listen to 'Dominion' straight afterwards.... ______________________________________________
and when you see 'porky & bess' you must see wake immediatly
and when you see 'porky & bess' you must see wake immediatly
long live rock'n'roll
I think the sisters were very G*** in the beginning (looks & music) and as time went on and they started to change musically they still kept their "dark" image (well until the blond hair and wild print shirts). Does anyone else think Von looks a bit silly in those things?
Anyhoo, the bands that started the whole G*** thing are trying to get away from it now and to be very honest I'm getting kind of sick of reading interviews with people like Von and Robert Smith who point out that they are not G*** and were never trying to be.
Maybe it's an age thing. They all seem to be 43. Maybe when I turn 43 I'll start to deny things too! They were young when they started in music and image meant a lot. Maybe now they are not so much concerned.
Unfortunately, things get labeled all the time. I don't understand this obsession with trying to not be G***
Who cares! It's a label that people began to use for something that was new and different and darker.
Now anyone who is dressed all in black is looked upon at that moment as G***
I think these bands as they get a bit older start to look at their audience and want to believe that they have the most intelligent & most impressive audience. (To flatter themselves perhaps????) I think sometimes G***s get associated with being suicidal and followers instead of example setters and maybe that is their complaint. I dunno.
It's day one and I'm already writing a book
*ouchy*
Anyhoo, the bands that started the whole G*** thing are trying to get away from it now and to be very honest I'm getting kind of sick of reading interviews with people like Von and Robert Smith who point out that they are not G*** and were never trying to be.
Maybe it's an age thing. They all seem to be 43. Maybe when I turn 43 I'll start to deny things too! They were young when they started in music and image meant a lot. Maybe now they are not so much concerned.
Unfortunately, things get labeled all the time. I don't understand this obsession with trying to not be G***
Who cares! It's a label that people began to use for something that was new and different and darker.
Now anyone who is dressed all in black is looked upon at that moment as G***
I think these bands as they get a bit older start to look at their audience and want to believe that they have the most intelligent & most impressive audience. (To flatter themselves perhaps????) I think sometimes G***s get associated with being suicidal and followers instead of example setters and maybe that is their complaint. I dunno.
It's day one and I'm already writing a book
*ouchy*
Not
Many moons ago my best friend was a goth, and I mean full blown goth. She was seriously into the whole goth scene. Anyway, she and her goth circle would wet themselves whenever someone suggested that the sisters were goth. Their version of events is that the sisters were what they termed 'mini-goth' at best. I guess it kinda stuck that these people who lived and breathed goth didn't think that the sisters were or ever could be goth.....
Many moons ago my best friend was a goth, and I mean full blown goth. She was seriously into the whole goth scene. Anyway, she and her goth circle would wet themselves whenever someone suggested that the sisters were goth. Their version of events is that the sisters were what they termed 'mini-goth' at best. I guess it kinda stuck that these people who lived and breathed goth didn't think that the sisters were or ever could be goth.....
I always thought they were goth. Thats why I bought a studded belt. But I couldn't dye my hair black. Blondes have more fun and all that My boyfriend has quite long hair though, thats goth isn't it?
Taken from the Mary Whitehouse Experience
"...the Goths, a teutonic people who in the first century AD appeared to have inhabited the middle part of the basin of the Vistula. Although modern history has imagined the Goths as a fearless, warlike people, this is belied by Plutarch's report of the battle of Macedonia, where he describes them as 'a puny, thin, white bunch in side-buckled pixie boots and bangles who legged it at the first sign of trouble'. Their defeat could, however, have been due in part to the speech of their Emperor Gordian on the morning of the battle, in which he said, 'Oh, this is a really bad time for me right now - Emma's parents have just split up and Sisters of Mercy have sold out and one of my aunties thought I was a heavy metal fan recently, and well, I started to think about it and we are really - there's not much in it.' "
hee hee
"...the Goths, a teutonic people who in the first century AD appeared to have inhabited the middle part of the basin of the Vistula. Although modern history has imagined the Goths as a fearless, warlike people, this is belied by Plutarch's report of the battle of Macedonia, where he describes them as 'a puny, thin, white bunch in side-buckled pixie boots and bangles who legged it at the first sign of trouble'. Their defeat could, however, have been due in part to the speech of their Emperor Gordian on the morning of the battle, in which he said, 'Oh, this is a really bad time for me right now - Emma's parents have just split up and Sisters of Mercy have sold out and one of my aunties thought I was a heavy metal fan recently, and well, I started to think about it and we are really - there's not much in it.' "
hee hee
and on the gothic style in general:
"Architectual style based on the aesthetic habits of the Gothic races. Notre Dame is perhaps the most famous example of Gothic design, but the most classic is undoubtedly the enourmous St Francis cathedral in Austerlitz, which is all black, held up with Salon 22 Hard Hold, and has 'Fields of the Nephilim' written on the back."
hee hee
"Architectual style based on the aesthetic habits of the Gothic races. Notre Dame is perhaps the most famous example of Gothic design, but the most classic is undoubtedly the enourmous St Francis cathedral in Austerlitz, which is all black, held up with Salon 22 Hard Hold, and has 'Fields of the Nephilim' written on the back."
hee hee
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so they are thenOn Aug 28, 2002 9:31pm, Torch wrote:
I think the sisters were very G*** in the beginning (looks & music) and as time went on and they started to change musically they still kept their "dark" image (well until the blond hair and wild print shirts). Does anyone else think Von looks a bit silly in those things?
Anyhoo, the bands that started the whole G*** thing are trying to get away from it now and to be very honest I'm getting kind of sick of reading interviews with people like Von and Robert Smith who point out that they are not G*** and were never trying to be.
Maybe it's an age thing. They all seem to be 43. Maybe when I turn 43 I'll start to deny things too! They were young when they started in music and image meant a lot. Maybe now they are not so much concerned.
Unfortunately, things get labeled all the time. I don't understand this obsession with trying to not be G***
Who cares! It's a label that people began to use for something that was new and different and darker.
Now anyone who is dressed all in black is looked upon at that moment as G***
I think these bands as they get a bit older start to look at their audience and want to believe that they have the most intelligent & most impressive audience. (To flatter themselves perhaps????) I think sometimes G***s get associated with being suicidal and followers instead of example setters and maybe that is their complaint. I dunno.
It's day one and I'm already writing a book
*ouchy*
see GS
are
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On Aug 28, 2002 10:28pm, lachert wrote:
Be serious: arn't
I am
are are are
right i'm off to watch that non- gothic video
Wake now