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Should CDs be 'protected' like this?

Yes, it's fair enough - it protects the rights of the musicians.
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No, it's ridiculous - it stops me using my own property as I wish.
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So you did.

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andymackem wrote: They are now seeking some kind of 'intellectual property' idea to protect the creator of published work (journalists, specifically) rather than the disseminator (newspaper owners, or plausibly record companies).
Erm...

It's like that in Belgium for tens and tens of years already... Surprises me that it is not so in England :eek:

As a musician or (text)writer, you have the intellectual rights over your work, and thats' something a record company or publisher has nothing to do with ('normally' that is, speaking very careful here ;D). The only kind of right they can own over your work are the mechanical rights (or reprography/reproduction rights). They can never own your music/text, you only give them the right to reproduce it (record or book pressings for example). My excuses if the terms are wrong, just translating literally from Dutch here ;)

It is even so (again, here in Belgium) that you don't have to be a member of an author's rights company (such as SABAM in Belgium and BUMA/STEMRA in Holland) in order to have copyright over your own work. It is enough to send the work to yourself in a registered letter/envelope. Thus, this is the first time your work got in circulation with a valid (and legally binding) 'time indication' on it (the posting date). When you receive the envelope back, you can put it in a safe somewhere until someone plagiates your work. Then sue him and produce the envelope at court. That's the theory of course ;)

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andymackem wrote:Interestingly the NUJ is withdrawing its support for existing copyright legislation.

There was a long (and rather dull) piece about this in their latest issue where they argue that they were wrong to endorse the repressive capitalist mechanism of copyright (the NUJ does write like this all the time - it makes me question why I'm a member every time it contacts me).
I scanned that piece in the latest issue (I'm a member of the NUJ as well) and it was one of the catalysts for this thread (in that I thought I could write something more interesting!).
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Who voted "Yes"?
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Dark wrote:Who voted "Yes"?
He won't tell you now! ;D

Could've been Andrew in disguise... ;)

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Izzy HaveMercy wrote:It is even so (again, here in Belgium) that you don't have to be a member of an author's rights company (such as SABAM in Belgium and BUMA/STEMRA in Holland) in order to have copyright over your own work. It is enough to send the work to yourself in a registered letter/envelope. Thus, this is the first time your work got in circulation with a valid (and legally binding) 'time indication' on it (the posting date). When you receive the envelope back, you can put it in a safe somewhere until someone plagiates your work. Then sue him and produce the envelope at court. That's the theory of course ;)

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But - as the discussion is nowadays, with people spreading their own music and all that - it seems you're not even allowed to spread your own music via eg. a Podcast in Belgium even if it's your own stuff, people have recieved 'threats' from SABAM because of doing this...

By the way, the Madonna-guy, was his original stuff at SABAM, so he could prove he was first then? :lol:
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Obviousman wrote:But - as the discussion is nowadays, with people spreading their own music and all that - it seems you're not even allowed to spread your own music via eg. a Podcast in Belgium even if it's your own stuff, people have recieved 'threats' from SABAM because of doing this...
That's just a way to scare people. It's like the IFPI threatening everyone to sue millions of euro's when all they do is shout out loud and set a few examples. Legally, they have nada to threaten you with. Let them sue you. Pathetic.

Obviousman also wrote:By the way, the Madonna-guy, was his original stuff at SABAM, so he could prove he was first then? :lol:
Yes it was, but the judge seemed to be even more deaf than the late Beethoven. This lawsuit was a farce anyway. Just compare the two here and judge for yourself. And the Belgian guy was not so well-hearing either. Took him six years to finally realize he hears his own music on worldwide radio and television. :roll: :lol:

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haven't really been following this topic folks, so if this link from a mate on another forum has already been posted, forgive

http://www.dsg.cs.tcd.ie/~haahrm/copying-protected-cds/
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James Blast wrote:haven't really been following this topic folks, so if this link from a mate on another forum has already been posted, forgive

http://www.dsg.cs.tcd.ie/~haahrm/copying-protected-cds/
No need for al that fuzz :innocent:

I don't know how I did it, but I managed to rip my brand new The Warlocks CD (which had a very proud Copy Controlled label on the outside) to MP3, for use on my iPod obviously.

How I managed to do it? Don't have a clue really. Just put it in my CD-player (a Plextor with autorun disabled) and ripped it with Easy CD-DA Extractor, but after I played it with the player integrated on the CD. Might try that with the other Copy Controlled CDs I have lying around too :D

But otherwise I'll try it your way ;D :notworthy: :notworthy:
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