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PostPost #1  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 12:33 pm    Post subject: Burn Reply with quote Back to top

I love this song. Great lyrics.
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PostPost #2  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Indeed.
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PostPost #3  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yup.
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PostPost #4  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

and I'm already feeling guilty.
But yes, yup.
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PostPost #5  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Burn Reply with quote Back to top

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:
I love this song. Great lyrics.


agree - great song - both music and lyrics.
could we start a real discussion about the lyrics?
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PostPost #6  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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and I'm already feeling guilty.
But yes, yup.


Before the lyrics are "torn apart" Surprised - I would like to know what DI is feeling guilty about Wink
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PostPost #7  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Burn Reply with quote Back to top

pikkrong wrote:
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:
I love this song. Great lyrics.


agree - great song - both music and lyrics.
could we start a real discussion about the lyrics?



yup Wink
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PostPost #8  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Indeed.
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PostPost #9  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Guess how long it takes until this one ends up in the trashbin and win Von's lousy leather jacket!
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PostPost #10  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:
Guess how long it takes until this one ends up in the trashbin and win Von's lousy leather jacket!

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nice Wink Our fearless leader!

however, burn IS a really good song - as with all the other reptile house tracks, its a seething commentary on the state of english politics in the early 80s We are not worthy! We are not worthy! We are not worthy!

and it "rocks a fat one", as the saying goes...

they really should resurrect it as a live opener! Smile
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PostPost #11  Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

True.
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PostPost #12  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

AndyTheGoth wrote:
dead inside wrote:
and I'm already feeling guilty.
But yes, yup.


Before the lyrics are "torn apart" Surprised - I would like to know what DI is feeling guilty about Wink


About the yups, indeeds, trues, quites, etc.

Yup.
Thst's it. Wink
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PostPost #13  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yup Indeed - Very True! - Quite! Wink
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PostPost #14  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:26 am    Post subject: here we go again. *sigh* Reply with quote Back to top

behold, ladies and gentlemen: the death of intellect.

right before your very eyes. here on this very thread.

t'was ever thus... Rolling Eyes
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PostPost #15  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

NOW What Have I Said !!!!!!!!!! Surprised
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PostPost #16  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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NOW What Have I Said !!!!!!!!!! Surprised

hmmm Twisted Evil

and don't go blaming izzy again... not yet anyway Wink Surprised
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PostPost #17  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Burn me a fire in the reptile house
In the colour and the carnage call me down
My face in the fire in the reptile house
And the kissing and the colour come crashing down

In the fire in the reptile house
In the colour and the carnage call me down
My face in the fire in the reptile house
And the kissing and the colour come crashing
Down, down, down
Down around me
Down, down, down
Down around my
Face...

In the fire in the reptile house
In the colour and the carnage call me down
My face in the fire in the reptile house
And the kissing and the colour come crashing
Down, down, down
Down around me
Down, down, down
Down around my
Face in the fire my faith in the fire in the
In the burn me down
My face my fire my faith my fire my
My burning down

In the fire in the reptile house
In the colour and the carnage call me down
My face in the fire in the reptile house
And the kissing and the colour come crashing
Down

(Crashing down)

{Additional verse when played backwards}

{After we complete the ring of fire,
We will burn this circus down,
The wheel goes round and the flames get higher
Round the juggling men and the idiot clown}


Thanks to the fourth-floor for that
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PostPost #18  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Burn me a fire in The Reptile House
Reptile refers to the elemental evil present in every human mind. "The Reptile House" is a building common in zoos where, obviously, the Reptiles are housed. I would like to think that this is a metaphor for the Houses of Parliament; given the extreme political nature of Valentine and Fix, torching the Palace of Westminster would seem a suitable conclusion.

The syntax of this line is also reminscent of the opening line of Eliot's Sweeney Erect (q.v.): "Paint me a cavernous waste shore". I'm also reminded of Turner's famous painting of the 18?? destruction of the Houses of Parliament.

The Reptile House was also adopted as the name of the Sisters' information service which existed in fits and starts from 1987 until 1992 when it blossomed for four years into the most literate, enervating fan club going. Official Reptile House T-Shirts always identified the wearer as a "REPTILE" which was a dubious privilege at best. Sadly, these days it appears to be in decline, though one hopes...

There is a verse in Burn which is recorded backwards, and is not listed in the official lyric book. It has been transcribed as follows:

"The Catherine wheel around on fire
We will burn this circus down
The wheel goes round and the friends get higher
For the juggling men and the idiot clown"


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thanks to 1959 and all that, for that Smile
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PostPost #19  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

it also makes for a nice back print on the utterly bastard groovy t-shirt Wink
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PostPost #20  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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it also makes for a nice back print on the utterly bastard groovy t-shirt Wink



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PostPost #21  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Juggling with the ring of fireThe bullets blow holes and the flames go higher
Chase the yellow, chase the gold
The orange and the white lie in the stones

The juggling men and the idiot clowns
We will burn this circus down to the ground

Because some day I hope to turn and
Stand and watch this city burning down

Chase the yellow, chase the gold
The orange and the white lie in the stones

Burning, burning, burning, burning down


cool another Johnny Cash fan We are not worthy!
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PostPost #22  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

slightly ot, f*ck it very ot but that's never stopped me, judging from quiffies rather dubious avatars over the last few days, who thinks he's playing with his new toy Wink

still, makes a change from him just playing with himself Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink
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PostPost #23  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Juggling with the ring of fire


cool another Johnny Cash fan We are not worthy!


Or maybe he just likes a curry?
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Nah, hopefully it's Johnny Cash We are not worthy!
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PostPost #24  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

How can Burn be a seething political commentary? All the song says- again, and again- is set fire to the reptile house. And some kissing and crashing colours.

If you try hard enough, you can dust down a couple of literary references off the shelf in any song, but it doesn't make the song particularly seething or much of a commentary.

AE- Good for a few one liners, and the odd disjointed literary reference. And not a whole lot more. Discuss....but don't disagree, b/c you'll be wrong.
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PostPost #25  Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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How can Burn be a seething political commentary? All the song says- again, and again- is set fire to the reptile house. And some kissing and crashing colours.

If you try hard enough, you can dust down a couple of literary references off the shelf in any song, but it doesn't make the song particularly seething or much of a commentary.

AE- Good for a few one liners, and the odd disjointed literary reference. And not a whole lot more. Discuss....but don't disagree, b/c you'll be wrong.

it's unusual for me to agree with the 1959 site's take on a set of lyrics, but this time i do. in part anyway.

given that the rest of the reptile house ep concerns itself with politics and "stateof the nation" type stuff, albeit shrouded in goth vagueries, obscurities, and a handful of standard eldritch drug references, it fits that the reptile house that needs burning down is the houses of parliament... to me anyway Smile

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but, yeah, i agree. you can read anything to anything if you try hard enough Wink

though i disagree with the comment on von's literary prowess. i think his lyrics work on a lot of different levels. most of them anyway. there are a few turkeys in there... Wierded Out
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