About the fu**in smoke

17 Mar 2006, 22:49

SINsister wrote:LOL! Hey, I'm 6'1", so I'm visible whether there's smoke or not (just ask my friends in the balcony who could see me in the front row, hahaha!)... \m/

Are you really that tall?

Nearly as tall as me.

Kewl.

Badlander · 17 Mar 2006, 22:55

6'1", as in that Liz Phair songy ? Nice.

6FeetOver · 17 Mar 2006, 22:55

Hom_Corleone wrote: Are you really that tall?
Nearly as tall as me.
Kewl.

Damn straight! And Tuesday night, I was *6'3"* in my mondo creepers! \m/

17 Mar 2006, 22:58

SINsister wrote:
Hom_Corleone wrote: Are you really that tall?
Nearly as tall as me.
Kewl.
Damn straight! And Tuesday night, I was *6'3"* in my mondo creepers! \m/

Tall chicks are cool. (in Beavis voice)

6FeetOver · 17 Mar 2006, 23:01

Bwahahaha! Why yes, yes we are.

9while9 · 17 Mar 2006, 23:04

SINsister wrote:And back on topic: there never is/has been/will be enough f*cking smoke, to infinity. So pffffffffffffffffft.

Excuse me, but are we not off topic here???
Hmmmmm?
Smoke/Fog, hmmmmmmmmm?

6FeetOver · 17 Mar 2006, 23:15

They started it.

Syberberg · 18 Mar 2006, 00:58

Sisters. Smoke. Synonimous. Three words that go well together.

We use smoke, just not as much and only one smoke machine. Usually located by the keyboardist (when we've got one) or Jonathan-K The Shiney Thing.

IMO, the lights wouldn't work without the smoke. The smoke wouldn't be enhanced by the lights. Neither would work without The Sisters.

The only other band I've seen that uses high levels of smoke effectively are FOTN.

Francis · 18 Mar 2006, 01:26

Motz wrote:"Too much smoke" = "This is my first Sisters gig"

All there is to it

You have wisdom beyond your ears, young sir.

I felt the same when I finally got to see the Sisters in October 1984. So much so that I lost interest completely within a month and didn't venture out again until 21 years later. To quote from Some Girls ...

"...a throbbing sound into a shimmering, pulsating machine of sorts. Some nights you could even hear songs. ... We used a lot of smoke, very few lights, stepped right back and just made a space where you could lose yourself ... in a tide of colour and noise."

Just don't forget to whirl like a dervish. You'll find yourself in the best of company.

Planet Dave · 18 Mar 2006, 01:57

Francis wrote:Just don't forget to whirl like a dervish. You'll find yourself in the best of company.

Cheers Francis.

cultchild · 18 Mar 2006, 02:06

dtsom wrote:
Ozpat wrote:I love that f*cking smoke!
It's the Sisters!
completely agree!!!

is the sisters identity in the gigs(the mix of the smoke and the lights)

i agree too it's the sisters and it's not just a concert it's a spectacle and doesn't andrew sing his best covered in smoke. the fans complaining are not true sisters fans. there could never be enough smoke!!!!

6FeetOver · 18 Mar 2006, 02:07

Francis wrote:"...a throbbing sound into a shimmering, pulsating machine of sorts. Some nights you could even hear songs. ... We used a lot of smoke, very few lights, stepped right back and just made a space where you could lose yourself ... in a tide of colour and noise."

Ahhhhh, and there it is. That's *exactly* it. If I were a religious person, I'd say that Tuesday night was akin to a religious experience. But I'm not religious.

Francis · 18 Mar 2006, 02:56

SINsister wrote:But I'm not religious.

And I'm generally too busy scanning the crowd for divas in black dresses to notice the smoke anyway.

ailime · 18 Mar 2006, 03:26

i would have payed more than my ticket price just for the smoke and lights show i think -

Francis · 18 Mar 2006, 03:44

ailime wrote:i would have payed more than my ticket price just for the smoke and lights show i think -

You also have wisdom beyond your ears.

GMC · 18 Mar 2006, 04:45

Well, not spelling though, that's "paid".

Anyway.

Who's FOTN?

Synonymous.

The 'locks had more smoke than the Sisters in DC. My friend joked that we hadn't actually "seen" the Warlocks, just heard them. I pointed to the little guitarist guy on the left (who was outside the smokescreen) and said "Well, we've seen A Warlock..."

6FeetOver · 18 Mar 2006, 04:53

Dude, English isn't her first language, so you might want to cut her some slack (and this comes from a self-proclaimed spelling/grammar nazi, too).

"FOTN" = Fields of the Neph(f)ilim.

I got to meet 2 Warlocks, and actually saw all of them on stage at one point. So nyah!

Francis · 18 Mar 2006, 04:59

GMC wrote:Who's FOTN?

Fields of the Nephilim. Don't ask me. I've just been here too long. Apparently they took the Spaghetti Sisters kitsch to a level Mr McDougal could only dream of. Cryptic enough for you?

GMC · 18 Mar 2006, 05:36

Sorry.

Her English was good enough I thought it was a first language, so I didn't cut her the slack suggested. We could sometimes see the bassist too. Took us a while to even see two drum sets, let alone drummers. Does anyone know if the Warlocks were using the Sisters light tech? He did a decent job hitting the cymbals with the spots and so on, though they didn't really DO the lights thing the way the Sisters do.

Martin · 18 Mar 2006, 05:43

ailime wrote:i would have payed more than my ticket price just for the smoke and lights show i think -

Easy to say: you could almost kiss the guy!

Let me put it straight, for the record: at first I was disturbed not beeing able to see a damn thing, especially because I had just bought a brand new digital camera-photo for the event! But almost 20 minutes after the beginning of the show and while some people were complaining around me, I decided to accept that smoke thing as a true artistic choice from Eldritch. "When You Don't See Me" was playing and it appeared clearly to me why it's so hard to find pictures of Eldritch on the Net, why Sister's official site is so dull, why the ad for the show was all dark and unclear. "It's so Sisters" I said to myself (in french).

I wanted to know in this forum if all that smoke was really Sister's will or if the smoke machine had run out of control in Montreal. It seems not. More than that: true fans have loved or would have loved the gig.

And one last thing: for me neither English isn't my first languageâ€¦

ailime · 18 Mar 2006, 05:45

hehe - forgiven -

english is my third language actually

in the montreal gig ; i can totally agree that during the warlocks part it was "smoke machine abuse" - otherwise ; for having myself used a small smoke machine while being staff to the high school fashion shows - i can say it's load of fun when i ordered to "let it smoke!!" and it has this sort of sweet smell to it - enjoyable - no ?

GMC · 18 Mar 2006, 05:46

Francis wrote:
GMC wrote:Who's FOTN?
Fields of the Nephilim. Don't ask me. I've just been here too long. Apparently they took the Spaghetti Sisters kitsch to a level Mr McDougal could only dream of. Cryptic enough for you?

Far too cryptic for me. But thanks all the same.

6FeetOver · 18 Mar 2006, 06:10

Martin wrote:"It's so Sisters" I said to myself (in french).

And one last thing: for me neither English isn't my first languageâ€¦

I've had about 6 years of French (high school/college), and I can't think in French, even now. How I envy you!

And yet your English is better than most Americans'. Astounding (and very depressing, if you think about it). \m/

eastmidswhizzkid · 18 Mar 2006, 06:27

i can't believe i just read 4 pages of this ....

slightly disturbed to discover that there are -to be added to the missed-the-point pro-drummer brigade- six HLers who (at the time of writing) voted against the smoke.

GMC · 18 Mar 2006, 15:21

While I view the bassist question as open (I think the Sisters currently would benefit at least a bit from live bass, but that the Doktor's bass could also be improved by a bit more attention to samples, at which point it would probably be a wash), the drummer question is not.

The Sisters of Mercy with a live drummer would be like the Rolling Stones with a taped Keef. Or Miles Davis using a drum machine. It completely misses the point of the act. There are things that live drummers do well; sounding loose and rollicking, like Charlie Watt. Sounding pounding and majestic, like Keith Moon. However.

For sounding like a relentless dead-on juggernaut, nothing beats the good Doktor.

And that last is what a Sisters live show is supposed to be. A jackhammer designed to get inside your head and (hopefully) lay eggs there.

Heartland

About the fu**in smoke

Too much artificial smoke?