Behind The Door vs Poison Door

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Some time ago I downloaded the song Behind The Door (peel session) from the internet and just loved it. Actually I became fond of all the songs from that session. "Just A Feeling" version of No Time To Cry was cool :)

Today I heard the Poison Door version featured on Walk Away 12". How can this be this lame ?!?!? I miss the peel session bassline the most. Now this is just sleepy and sucks...

I wonder why they left out the ass kicking bassline and just screwed the whole thing up.

What are your thoughts on the comparison of the two ?
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I also prefer the Peel one but certainly don't regard the official release as being screwed up.
Maybe partly because I heard the official one first and liked it.
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I prefer the Ghost Dance version, but you all know that :roll:
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I love this song anyway except for one detail : the lack of a proper intro. In that sense the Ghost Dance version does retain a slight edge.
Apart from the rather heavy distorsion on the Peel session version, how are the bass lines different ?

Here are my fave lines from that song :

"Behind the door
The poison door
The puppets dance on a burning floor
Like dying flames
Behind the door
Shoot me down again"

Utterly brilliant. :notworthy:
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like ozpat i heard the official one first and don't find it lame; although i love the piano part at the end of the session version.
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I've not heard the Peel Session. I'm waiting for a vinyl bootleg of it (Radioland, Psychedelic Sessions and the latter's many low-quality repressings, IIRC, have the sessions on). :lol:
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It's like Body and Soul - recorded and mixed in the studio, it just sounds too polished and just sucks the proverbial.....












But Live - :eek: WOW! :eek: It kicks the proverbial...... :wink: :D

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Have to say that I FAR prefer the "Walk Away" version of Poison Door; a fantastic example of 84 Sisters at their peak, and a path I wish they'd trodden further. :notworthy:

I always thought the Peel Sesh version souned weak in comparison??!!! The bass may have been more prominent, but I always felt the performance lacked something when compared to the official version.

Never actually heard the Ghosties version - how close does it stay to the original?
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you mean apart from the fact that it's got a bird singing? :P
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eastmidswhizzkid wrote:you mean apart from the fact that it's got a bird singing? :P
....erm.... well I'd never have thought that Marx & Co would have resorted to using our avian friends for vocal duties!!! Was it a small, bush dwelling bird (ie. a finch / tit of some kind) or something bigger and scarier, like a Buzzard? :innocent: :wink:

Nope, whaaatt Oi mean waaaaaaaaz (said in best Cornish accent).... did they stick to the orignal lyrics / tune / arrangement kinda thingy? I've heard what they did to "(when ) Spirits (fly)" and loved it, just wondered if they did a similar thingy to PD!
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Muppet wrote: Nope, whaaatt Oi mean waaaaaaaaz (said in best Cornish accent).... did they stick to the orignal lyrics / tune / arrangement kinda thingy? I've heard what they did to "(when ) Spirits (fly)" and loved it, just wondered if they did a similar thingy to PD!
They pretty much sticked to the original. It's a Gary Marx song anyway, so you can hardly call that a cover. The main difference (well apart from the voice itself) is the intro, where Ann Marie starts a cappella and then the music kicks in.
As for the rest, not being a musician I can't really go into details. It sounds pretty much the same to me.
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Muppet wrote:
eastmidswhizzkid wrote:you mean apart from the fact that it's got a bird singing? :P
....erm.... well I'd never have thought that Marx & Co would have resorted to using our avian friends for vocal duties!!! Was it a small, bush dwelling bird (ie. a finch / tit of some kind) or something bigger and scarier, like a Buzzard? :innocent: :wink:
it was a greater-crested hurst-warbler...lovely plumage. :wink:
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eastmidswhizzkid wrote: it was a greater-crested hurst-warbler...lovely plumage. :wink:
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: Conjoured up a lovely image for a friday morn! :D
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Dark wrote:I've not heard the Peel Session. I'm waiting for a vinyl bootleg of it (Radioland, Psychedelic Sessions and the latter's many low-quality repressings, IIRC, have the sessions on). :lol:
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Badlander wrote:
Here are my fave lines from that song :

"Behind the door
The poison door
The puppets dance on a burning floor
Like dying flames
Behind the door
Shoot me down again"

Utterly brilliant. :notworthy:
Pardon me in advance for being controversial, but COME ON !!! Those are surely amongst the weakest, and corniest, lyrics Von has ever written. I mean, puppets dancing on a (burning) floor, behind a door, looking like flames ??? No !!! What's that all about? I'm almost tempted to conjecture that a certain Mr Hussey had a hand in them, so utterly Mession-esque are they in their badness...

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MrChris wrote: Pardon me in advance for being controversial, but COME ON !!! Those are surely amongst the weakest, and corniest, lyrics Von has ever written. I mean, puppets dancing on a (burning) floor, behind a door, looking like flames ??? No !!! What's that all about? I'm almost tempted to conjecture that a certain Mr Hussey had a hand in them, so utterly Mession-esque are they in their badness...

As I said, pardon me ...
No problemo. I don't see much point for debate anyway : I like it and you don't. Hard to build a consensus on such ground. We might just as well leave it at that. ;D 8)
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MrChris wrote:
Badlander wrote:
Here are my fave lines from that song :

"Behind the door
The poison door
The puppets dance on a burning floor
Like dying flames
Behind the door
Shoot me down again"

Utterly brilliant. :notworthy:
Pardon me in advance for being controversial, but COME ON !!! Those are surely amongst the weakest, and corniest, lyrics Von has ever written. I mean, puppets dancing on a (burning) floor, behind a door, looking like flames ??? No !!! What's that all about? I'm almost tempted to conjecture that a certain Mr Hussey had a hand in them, so utterly Mession-esque are they in their badness...

As I said, pardon me ...
They were written by a certain Mr Marx :wink:
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i love every incarnation of this song* ;D




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hallucienate wrote: They were written by a certain Mr Marx :wink:
Which is certainly why it never got played live. Well, apart from the Peel session.
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hallucienate wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Badlander wrote:

They were written by a certain Mr Marx :wink:
That explains a lot - I was pretty sure Von would never write such arse-dribble... :wink:
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I haven't heard the Ghost Dance version, anyone care to hook me up? :innocent:
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No need to insult Gary Marx. He's a brilliant guy, and I won't hear a word against Ghost Dance's live version of Poison Door, which you can download here.

The original version is on the Wide Receiver TSOM bootleg.
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Dark wrote:No need to insult Gary Marx. He's a brilliant guy, and I won't hear a word against Ghost Dance's live version of Poison Door, which you can download here.

The original version is on the Wide Receiver TSOM bootleg.
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You can always tell when it's Mr Marx on the guitar - sublime! 8) :D

Nice one, seeing as i've mislayed mine somewhere :?

Think i'll upload it to a certain yahoo website :wink:
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Big Si wrote: You can always tell when it's Mr Marx on the guitar - sublime! 8) :D
Oh yeah. Someone said the other day that Gary was the best guitarist the Sissies have ever had. From a technical point of view, I can't say. But he has two "little things" that the other don't have : style and attitude. 8) :notworthy:
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Badlander wrote:
Big Si wrote: You can always tell when it's Mr Marx on the guitar - sublime! 8) :D
Oh yeah. Someone said the other day that Gary was the best guitarist the Sissies have ever had. From a technical point of view, I can't say. But he has two "little things" that the other don't have : style and attitude. 8) :notworthy:
Just look at the music he wrote! 8)

The 'better' half of the album First and Last and Always, for starters! :D


Although i'm also very partial to the live sound of Bricheno, Bruhn and James. Looking forward to hearing Ben and Robo! :D
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