Some time ago I downloaded the song Behind The Door (peel session) from the internet and just loved it. Actually I became fond of all the songs from that session. "Just A Feeling" version of No Time To Cry was cool
Today I heard the Poison Door version featured on Walk Away 12". How can this be this lame ?!?!? I miss the peel session bassline the most. Now this is just sleepy and sucks...
I wonder why they left out the ass kicking bassline and just screwed the whole thing up.
What are your thoughts on the comparison of the two ?
Behind The Door vs Poison Door
- Ozpat
- From the Lowlands
- Posts: 6758
- Joined: 16 Aug 2005, 13:14
- Location: In the place through which we wander.
I also prefer the Peel one but certainly don't regard the official release as being screwed up.
Maybe partly because I heard the official one first and liked it.
Maybe partly because I heard the official one first and liked it.
"as we walk on the floodland"
I prefer the Ghost Dance version, but you all know that
Last edited by scotty on 30 Mar 2006, 17:30, edited 1 time in total.
Being brave is coming home at 2am half drunk, smelling of perfume, climbing into bed, slapping the wife on the arse and saying,"right fatty, you're next!!"
- Badlander
- Overbomber
- Posts: 3566
- Joined: 16 Feb 2006, 20:17
- Location: At the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
I love this song anyway except for one detail : the lack of a proper intro. In that sense the Ghost Dance version does retain a slight edge.
Apart from the rather heavy distorsion on the Peel session version, how are the bass lines different ?
Here are my fave lines from that song :
"Behind the door
The poison door
The puppets dance on a burning floor
Like dying flames
Behind the door
Shoot me down again"
Utterly brilliant.
Apart from the rather heavy distorsion on the Peel session version, how are the bass lines different ?
Here are my fave lines from that song :
"Behind the door
The poison door
The puppets dance on a burning floor
Like dying flames
Behind the door
Shoot me down again"
Utterly brilliant.
I'd end this moment to be with you
Through morphic oceans I'd lay here with you
Through morphic oceans I'd lay here with you
- eastmidswhizzkid
- Faster Than The Light Of Speed
- Posts: 9876
- Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
- Location: WhizzWorld
- Contact:
like ozpat i heard the official one first and don't find it lame; although i love the piano part at the end of the session version.
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
It's like Body and Soul - recorded and mixed in the studio, it just sounds too polished and just sucks the proverbial.....
But Live - WOW! It kicks the proverbial......
(or maybe it's because there's no tape hiss or feedback )
But Live - WOW! It kicks the proverbial......
(or maybe it's because there's no tape hiss or feedback )
- Muppet
- Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 170
- Joined: 10 Apr 2004, 00:53
- Location: Cornwall, me 'ansomes!
- Contact:
Have to say that I FAR prefer the "Walk Away" version of Poison Door; a fantastic example of 84 Sisters at their peak, and a path I wish they'd trodden further.
I always thought the Peel Sesh version souned weak in comparison??!!! The bass may have been more prominent, but I always felt the performance lacked something when compared to the official version.
Never actually heard the Ghosties version - how close does it stay to the original?
I always thought the Peel Sesh version souned weak in comparison??!!! The bass may have been more prominent, but I always felt the performance lacked something when compared to the official version.
Never actually heard the Ghosties version - how close does it stay to the original?
"You've a pretty good command of English, for a vole..."
- eastmidswhizzkid
- Faster Than The Light Of Speed
- Posts: 9876
- Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
- Location: WhizzWorld
- Contact:
you mean apart from the fact that it's got a bird singing?
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
- Muppet
- Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 170
- Joined: 10 Apr 2004, 00:53
- Location: Cornwall, me 'ansomes!
- Contact:
....erm.... well I'd never have thought that Marx & Co would have resorted to using our avian friends for vocal duties!!! Was it a small, bush dwelling bird (ie. a finch / tit of some kind) or something bigger and scarier, like a Buzzard?eastmidswhizzkid wrote:you mean apart from the fact that it's got a bird singing?
Nope, whaaatt Oi mean waaaaaaaaz (said in best Cornish accent).... did they stick to the orignal lyrics / tune / arrangement kinda thingy? I've heard what they did to "(when ) Spirits (fly)" and loved it, just wondered if they did a similar thingy to PD!
"You've a pretty good command of English, for a vole..."
- Badlander
- Overbomber
- Posts: 3566
- Joined: 16 Feb 2006, 20:17
- Location: At the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
They pretty much sticked to the original. It's a Gary Marx song anyway, so you can hardly call that a cover. The main difference (well apart from the voice itself) is the intro, where Ann Marie starts a cappella and then the music kicks in.Muppet wrote: Nope, whaaatt Oi mean waaaaaaaaz (said in best Cornish accent).... did they stick to the orignal lyrics / tune / arrangement kinda thingy? I've heard what they did to "(when ) Spirits (fly)" and loved it, just wondered if they did a similar thingy to PD!
As for the rest, not being a musician I can't really go into details. It sounds pretty much the same to me.
I'd end this moment to be with you
Through morphic oceans I'd lay here with you
Through morphic oceans I'd lay here with you
- eastmidswhizzkid
- Faster Than The Light Of Speed
- Posts: 9876
- Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
- Location: WhizzWorld
- Contact:
it was a greater-crested hurst-warbler...lovely plumage.Muppet wrote:....erm.... well I'd never have thought that Marx & Co would have resorted to using our avian friends for vocal duties!!! Was it a small, bush dwelling bird (ie. a finch / tit of some kind) or something bigger and scarier, like a Buzzard?eastmidswhizzkid wrote:you mean apart from the fact that it's got a bird singing?
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
-
- Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 662
- Joined: 31 Jan 2002, 00:00
- Location: East Yorkshire
Quiff boy very kindly weeded the BBC digital radio broadcast, from a couple of years ago. Super top notch sound quality, for anyone that hadn't noticed it in the weeding section.Dark wrote:I've not heard the Peel Session. I'm waiting for a vinyl bootleg of it (Radioland, Psychedelic Sessions and the latter's many low-quality repressings, IIRC, have the sessions on).
Give me one good reason
Pardon me in advance for being controversial, but COME ON !!! Those are surely amongst the weakest, and corniest, lyrics Von has ever written. I mean, puppets dancing on a (burning) floor, behind a door, looking like flames No !!! What's that all about? I'm almost tempted to conjecture that a certain Mr Hussey had a hand in them, so utterly Mession-esque are they in their badness...Badlander wrote:
Here are my fave lines from that song :
"Behind the door
The poison door
The puppets dance on a burning floor
Like dying flames
Behind the door
Shoot me down again"
Utterly brilliant.
As I said, pardon me ...
Chris
---------------------------------------------
Again and again and again...
---------------------------------------------
Again and again and again...
- Badlander
- Overbomber
- Posts: 3566
- Joined: 16 Feb 2006, 20:17
- Location: At the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
No problemo. I don't see much point for debate anyway : I like it and you don't. Hard to build a consensus on such ground. We might just as well leave it at that.MrChris wrote: Pardon me in advance for being controversial, but COME ON !!! Those are surely amongst the weakest, and corniest, lyrics Von has ever written. I mean, puppets dancing on a (burning) floor, behind a door, looking like flames No !!! What's that all about? I'm almost tempted to conjecture that a certain Mr Hussey had a hand in them, so utterly Mession-esque are they in their badness...
As I said, pardon me ...
I'd end this moment to be with you
Through morphic oceans I'd lay here with you
Through morphic oceans I'd lay here with you
- hallucienate
- Overbomber
- Posts: 4602
- Joined: 17 Apr 2002, 01:00
- Location: /\/¯¯¯¯¯\/\
- Contact:
They were written by a certain Mr MarxMrChris wrote:Pardon me in advance for being controversial, but COME ON !!! Those are surely amongst the weakest, and corniest, lyrics Von has ever written. I mean, puppets dancing on a (burning) floor, behind a door, looking like flames No !!! What's that all about? I'm almost tempted to conjecture that a certain Mr Hussey had a hand in them, so utterly Mession-esque are they in their badness...Badlander wrote:
Here are my fave lines from that song :
"Behind the door
The poison door
The puppets dance on a burning floor
Like dying flames
Behind the door
Shoot me down again"
Utterly brilliant.
As I said, pardon me ...
- vicus
- Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 997
- Joined: 21 Apr 2002, 01:00
- Location: behind the door
- Contact:
i love every incarnation of this song*
*big surprise, hmmm?
*big surprise, hmmm?
"Am Anfang wurde das Universum erschaffen.
Das machte viele Leute sehr wütend und wurde allenthalben als Schritt in die falsche Richtung angesehen."
http://www.poison-door.net/
Das machte viele Leute sehr wütend und wurde allenthalben als Schritt in die falsche Richtung angesehen."
http://www.poison-door.net/
- Badlander
- Overbomber
- Posts: 3566
- Joined: 16 Feb 2006, 20:17
- Location: At the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
Which is certainly why it never got played live. Well, apart from the Peel session.hallucienate wrote: They were written by a certain Mr Marx
I'd end this moment to be with you
Through morphic oceans I'd lay here with you
Through morphic oceans I'd lay here with you
hallucienate wrote:MrChris wrote:That explains a lot - I was pretty sure Von would never write such arse-dribble...Badlander wrote:
They were written by a certain Mr Marx
Chris
---------------------------------------------
Again and again and again...
---------------------------------------------
Again and again and again...
- robertzombie
- Overbomber
- Posts: 4382
- Joined: 05 Sep 2005, 12:49
- Location: London
I haven't heard the Ghost Dance version, anyone care to hook me up?
-
- Underneath the Rock
- Posts: 6605
- Joined: 27 Oct 2004, 21:26
- Location: People's Republic of Glasgow
- Contact:
No need to insult Gary Marx. He's a brilliant guy, and I won't hear a word against Ghost Dance's live version of Poison Door, which you can download here.
The original version is on the Wide Receiver TSOM bootleg.
The original version is on the Wide Receiver TSOM bootleg.
Dark wrote:No need to insult Gary Marx. He's a brilliant guy, and I won't hear a word against Ghost Dance's live version of Poison Door, which you can download here.
The original version is on the Wide Receiver TSOM bootleg.
You can always tell when it's Mr Marx on the guitar - sublime!
Nice one, seeing as i've mislayed mine somewhere
Think i'll upload it to a certain yahoo website
- Badlander
- Overbomber
- Posts: 3566
- Joined: 16 Feb 2006, 20:17
- Location: At the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
Oh yeah. Someone said the other day that Gary was the best guitarist the Sissies have ever had. From a technical point of view, I can't say. But he has two "little things" that the other don't have : style and attitude.Big Si wrote: You can always tell when it's Mr Marx on the guitar - sublime!
I'd end this moment to be with you
Through morphic oceans I'd lay here with you
Through morphic oceans I'd lay here with you
Just look at the music he wrote!Badlander wrote:Oh yeah. Someone said the other day that Gary was the best guitarist the Sissies have ever had. From a technical point of view, I can't say. But he has two "little things" that the other don't have : style and attitude.Big Si wrote: You can always tell when it's Mr Marx on the guitar - sublime!
The 'better' half of the album First and Last and Always, for starters!
Although i'm also very partial to the live sound of Bricheno, Bruhn and James. Looking forward to hearing Ben and Robo!