Put another down for pretty much all of VT. About the only one I can listen too more than once a year in Dr.Jeep for all the reasons people hated it in this thread.
I'm not knocking the quality of the album as the production is quite good and delivers what it promises and I'm glad that Von didn't come out with Floodland II.
It's a just got that AOR sound to it to me.
Worst Sisters songs.
+ 1.spot778 wrote:Put another down for pretty much all of VT.
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The promo CD with the numerous mixes does begin to tax the nerves, but I still love itmarkfiend wrote:I prefer the 7" or the album mix to the 12" of Lucretia. The 12" mix proves that it is possible to have too much of a good thing.
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I was disappointed with VT when it came out, I have explained all this to Keith on a reasonably sober phone call. I came in at FALAA and dove back for the singles. I then played them, and apart from Shriekback, pretty much nothing else for what seemed like an eternity. I did the same with the Floodland era stuff.
Having almost totally dismissed VT, at the time and hardly playing it, I now really enjoy it and think that line-up really kicked some erse live.
I've played the early stuff too much and I've waited too long.
I'm still waiting...
Having almost totally dismissed VT, at the time and hardly playing it, I now really enjoy it and think that line-up really kicked some erse live.
I've played the early stuff too much and I've waited too long.
I'm still waiting...
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s**t, me and Mr. Blast were separated at birth My story is almost exactly the same, although I was not quite as negative about VT initially.James Blast wrote:I was disappointed with VT when it came out, I have explained all this to Keith on a reasonably sober phone call. I came in at FALAA and dove back for the singles. I then played them, and apart from Shriekback, pretty much nothing else for what seemed like an eternity. I did the same with the Floodland era stuff.
Having almost totally dismissed VT, at the time and hardly playing it, I now really enjoy it and think that line-up really kicked some erse live.
I've played the early stuff too much and I've waited too long.
I'm still waiting...
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Prince William you mean, there's only one King Billy (and that's McNeill )BillyBadBreaks wrote:Cheers, your blue brother, King Billy
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Big Si wrote:Prince William you mean, there's only one King Billy (and that's McNeill )BillyBadBreaks wrote:Cheers, your blue brother, King Billy
*sorry for derailing the topic
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yir most welcomeBillyBadBreaks wrote:[Cheers, your blue brother, King Billy
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and .... umm .... the remix of TOL shoulda just had Ofra Haza on vocals but that's just me I find her haunting on the song and want more !
Granted it would've been a cover rather a TSOM song but still ...
Granted it would've been a cover rather a TSOM song but still ...
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There was a B side to Dominion, think it was Ozymandias, basically Dominion played backwards.
Listened to it once straight through but never got the joke...........
Listened to it once straight through but never got the joke...........
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Every thing apart from "Under the gun" and "we are the same Susanne" after "Floodland" is complete sub metal AOR cock.Sorry folks but honest to god I'd have a lot more respect for Eldritch and his tunes had he gone solo in 1986 and let Hussey get on with digging his own grave with "The Sisterhood".Perhaps then we wouldn't have to keep dredging up this Goth or not goth cobblers.
Ask any rock fan to name a goth band and 9/10 times the answer is Sisters of mercy.The media thinks they're goth,95% of the people who go to see them live are either goths,ex-goths or wannabe goths.If you don't wanna be called a goth then don't call yourself The sisters of mercy.Does anyone seriously still think Pete Murphy is a goth and expect him to play "Bela" live?No because he doesn't call himself "Bauhaus" does he?
The last twice I've seen the Sisters live,Eldritch has shown nothing but utter contempt for the bands pre 86 material and even more for his core fans.I'll never venture near another Sisters of mercy show again and this is a tragedy as they were the most inspiring band on the planet.
Its time to bite the bullet,In his struggle to sound contemporary ,Von has alienated his core fans,in the current guise the Sisters can never be big again.Someone mentioned "The Merry Thoughts" and crap plagerists they may well be,but they sell bucketloads of albums as do other Sisters copyists(Love like blood,Garden of delight,69 eyes,type O neg)and why?because they sound like pre Vision thing Sisters(or at least they try but fail dismally).
Either they are the Sisters of Mercy in which case a bit of effort to sound like the Sisters would be appreciated or its Andrew Eldritch solo and in the latter case good luck to him at least then he could get a record company that won't expect him to do "Floodland 2",get away from his hated "goth" labelling,do what he wants and gain the respect again from stupid old goths like me.
Ask any rock fan to name a goth band and 9/10 times the answer is Sisters of mercy.The media thinks they're goth,95% of the people who go to see them live are either goths,ex-goths or wannabe goths.If you don't wanna be called a goth then don't call yourself The sisters of mercy.Does anyone seriously still think Pete Murphy is a goth and expect him to play "Bela" live?No because he doesn't call himself "Bauhaus" does he?
The last twice I've seen the Sisters live,Eldritch has shown nothing but utter contempt for the bands pre 86 material and even more for his core fans.I'll never venture near another Sisters of mercy show again and this is a tragedy as they were the most inspiring band on the planet.
Its time to bite the bullet,In his struggle to sound contemporary ,Von has alienated his core fans,in the current guise the Sisters can never be big again.Someone mentioned "The Merry Thoughts" and crap plagerists they may well be,but they sell bucketloads of albums as do other Sisters copyists(Love like blood,Garden of delight,69 eyes,type O neg)and why?because they sound like pre Vision thing Sisters(or at least they try but fail dismally).
Either they are the Sisters of Mercy in which case a bit of effort to sound like the Sisters would be appreciated or its Andrew Eldritch solo and in the latter case good luck to him at least then he could get a record company that won't expect him to do "Floodland 2",get away from his hated "goth" labelling,do what he wants and gain the respect again from stupid old goths like me.
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Oh no, somebody revived HL's worst thread !
The medias are wrong.wild bill buttock wrote:The media thinks they're goth
At what point did Leonard Cohen turn goth ?If you don't wanna be called a goth then don't call yourself The sisters of mercy.
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Cohen wears black and is a miserable bastard,that is the two main criteria surely?And so was Johnny Cash and he covered a NIN song(better than Reznor did it).Goth as goth can be.And so are Westlife.
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The king of goth.
What does goth mean anyway ?
*coat*
Leonard Cohen isn't miserable. You were misinformed.
What does goth mean anyway ?
*coat*
Leonard Cohen isn't miserable. You were misinformed.
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Then who the fcuk was I watching in Manchester last month?wild bill buttock wrote:Does anyone seriously still think Pete Murphy is a goth and expect him to play "Bela" live?No because he doesn't call himself "Bauhaus" does he?
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Bauhaus?Bloody brilliant they were too.I meant Pete Murphy solo.
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Here, hereBadlander wrote:Oh no, somebody revived HL's worst thread !
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is Old Laughin' Len checkin' the family jewels in that pic?
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Worst songs, excluding demo and live recordings:-
Anaconda, improved with age but I'm still not a fan of it
Ozymandias - what a cop out that was, doing a song backwards
Temple Of Love (with Ofra Haza) - I don't like her voice and was a slight case of cashing in without giving us a new song
As for the newer songs that have only been done live: - Come Together is a bit limp-wristed and that Andrews' Sisters cover was s**t. Stop Dragging My Heart Around was truely awful on the bootlegs I've heard. Almost makes Patricia Morrison sond like a singer (only kidding!)
Anaconda, improved with age but I'm still not a fan of it
Ozymandias - what a cop out that was, doing a song backwards
Temple Of Love (with Ofra Haza) - I don't like her voice and was a slight case of cashing in without giving us a new song
As for the newer songs that have only been done live: - Come Together is a bit limp-wristed and that Andrews' Sisters cover was s**t. Stop Dragging My Heart Around was truely awful on the bootlegs I've heard. Almost makes Patricia Morrison sond like a singer (only kidding!)
On the other hand, the brain of an idiot seldom weighs more than 23oz - Gray's Anatomy
I'd always vote for the extended version of the original Temple of Love here. That song works best as a short sharp shock, and by the time the drums come in again it's already done it's business and said everything it had to say. Totally not necessary.
Aside from that, and some of the obvious filler-class material on latter B sides, Under The Gun is the only one I wouldn't mind never hearing again, although it is miles better in it's live incarnation.
Aside from that, and some of the obvious filler-class material on latter B sides, Under The Gun is the only one I wouldn't mind never hearing again, although it is miles better in it's live incarnation.
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Worst Sisters song ever? That's a hard question. There are no rubbish Sisters songs, but some are less stonking gonzo amphetamine filth than others. I think "Temple Of Love" is overplayed and cliched. But "Blood Money", "Untitled", "Sandstorm", and "Under The Gun" get less rotation than others.
Hang on. "Ozymandius". That's awful.
Hang on. "Ozymandius". That's awful.
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Blood Money is brilliant!