Yesterday I listen to Cure's Disintegration, and the title track have the same rhythm as Dominion/ Mother Russia.
Don't you think so? I'm not the drumer but it's very similar and in result it's 2:0 for Sisters
Dominion vs Disintegration
i think alot of bands got the same drum parts, mainly because there s only some rythems you can drum, its just the arrangement of guitars, bass and vocal (or more) that make the difference.
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Finn wrote:i think alot of bands got the same drum parts, mainly because there s only some rythems you can drum, its just the arrangement of guitars, bass and vocal (or more) that make the difference.
Listen to The Creatures, more specifically Budgie's use of percussion
and tell me that every band has similar drum parts.
I'm sure other drummers fall into the inventive category...
people help me out here?
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I'm really not convinced. Apart from the fact that they're both 7-8' long epics (a genre the Girls didn't invent by any means), I don't see what these two songs have in common. A drummer could put that in technical terms, which I certainly can't. But I think you worry too much.
BTW if it's 2:0 for the Girls, what were the other tracks ?
BTW if it's 2:0 for the Girls, what were the other tracks ?
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Mmmhh i dont really see your point.9while9 wrote:Finn wrote:i think alot of bands got the same drum parts, mainly because there s only some rythems you can drum, its just the arrangement of guitars, bass and vocal (or more) that make the difference.
Listen to The Creatures, more specifically Budgie's use of percussion
and tell me that every band has similar drum parts.
I'm sure other drummers fall into the inventive category...
people help me out here?
I suggested a drummer has got like.. lets call it basic rythems.
And that basis is being used alot, with the result of alot of songs and bands using the same drum rythms.
I did NOT say, ALL songs in the world revolve around the same drum parts, and i did not say there were no people doing different things.
I love The Creatures and Budgie is one of my favorite drummers.
But lets take Ginger Fish (Marilyn Manson drummer) who s got no inspiration what so ever.
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Finn wrote:Good point then..9while9 wrote:But lets take Ginger Fish (Marilyn Manson drummer) who s got no inspiration what so ever.Finn wrote:i think alot of bands got the same drum parts, mainly because there s only some rythems you can drum, its just the arrangement of guitars, bass and vocal (or more) that make the difference.
And I may have jumped the gun and or tom tom...
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With rock and roll music, you practically have to have a song in 4/4 (which means four beats per measure, with the quarter note representing each beat, or whatever--it's just standard). Couple that with the fact that it depends pretty much on the snare hitting on the two and four, the bass hitting on 1 and 3, and a hi-hat or cymbal filling in the rest with sixteenth notes, and you get fairly similar rythyms in everything. Most bands spend their whole careers deviating little from this (I'd have to say most of the Doktor's parts pretty much follow the formula), and it seems almost pointless to try to release commercial music that doesn't follow it (people can't shop or dance to waltzes, I guess).
It's not just drums, how many bands out there just use twelve-bar blues, with a bassist hitting the root note? Also, see intro-verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus-outro.
It's not just drums, how many bands out there just use twelve-bar blues, with a bassist hitting the root note? Also, see intro-verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus-outro.
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Prog bands use a lot of different time signatures; probably the best known example is The Pink Floyd's Money which is in 7/4 IIRC
Tool use a lot of "non-standard" time signatures too.
Back in the early days the Doktor couldn't do anything other than 4/4 (see Doctor Avalanche's tech notes) but these days they could probably get all sorts of time signatures from him... if they wanted to.
Tool use a lot of "non-standard" time signatures too.
Back in the early days the Doktor couldn't do anything other than 4/4 (see Doctor Avalanche's tech notes) but these days they could probably get all sorts of time signatures from him... if they wanted to.
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Top post.8.5 wrote:With rock and roll music, you practically have to have a song in 4/4 (which means four beats per measure, with the quarter note representing each beat, or whatever--it's just standard). Couple that with the fact that it depends pretty much on the snare hitting on the two and four, the bass hitting on 1 and 3, and a hi-hat or cymbal filling in the rest with sixteenth notes, and you get fairly similar rythyms in everything. Most bands spend their whole careers deviating little from this (I'd have to say most of the Doktor's parts pretty much follow the formula), and it seems almost pointless to try to release commercial music that doesn't follow it (people can't shop or dance to waltzes, I guess).
It's not just drums, how many bands out there just use twelve-bar blues, with a bassist hitting the root note? Also, see intro-verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus-outro.
But erm... people can't dance to waltz ? Waltz is dance music...
Maybe modern people can't do waltz.
@ Mark : Tori Amos' Spark is pretty weird as well. I was told it was in 11/4 or even 11/7.
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The Cardiacs used to do a lot of stuff in 3/4 (waltz time) now I think.
And Money is only mostly in 7/4. There's a couple of sections in 4/4 too.
@ Eric: It can't be 11/7, there's no 7th note. Maybe it's some parts 11/4, some 7/4.
And Money is only mostly in 7/4. There's a couple of sections in 4/4 too.
@ Eric: It can't be 11/7, there's no 7th note. Maybe it's some parts 11/4, some 7/4.
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I just heard a Led Zeppelin song that sounded just like Neverland. I guess it's 3:0 for Sisters.Yesterday I listen to Cure's Disintegration, and the title track have the same rhythm as Dominion/ Mother Russia.
Don't you think so? I'm not the drumer but it's very similar and in result it's 2:0 for Sisters
"still" refren sounds like main riff "detonation boulevard" and drums pattern in "Marian" sounds like all drum parts in songs of THE CULT
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When the levee breaks. Did you skip the history class ?Wilkstein wrote: I just heard a Led Zeppelin song that sounded just like Neverland. I guess it's 3:0 for Sisters.
BTW boys and girls, how about Detonation boulevard vs. Fascination street ?
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The Cure's "Six Different Ways" is a Waltz (3/4 Time)... you can dance to that (well at least smith does - lol).
mmhh allright.. so in the end we realized that?
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surely "disintegration" v "unknown pleasures" is a better comparison?
just how many JD synth pads & fills can you steal & drop into one album?
see JD's "atmosphere" v the entire cure album
just how many JD synth pads & fills can you steal & drop into one album?
see JD's "atmosphere" v the entire cure album
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