New? Old? songs

Finn · 17 May 2006, 21:51

Everybody knows the sisters are doing a slightly different version of there old songs live on tour.

My question to everyone:
(IF there would be a new record

)
How would you feel about them re-releasing there old songs but in the "new" version?
Would you see it as a bad thing, or not?

Ozpat · 17 May 2006, 21:58

First I'd like the unreleased songs to be recorded and released.

Second I'd be happy with any re-releases. I'd be happy with any new official stuff actually...

9while9 · 17 May 2006, 22:01

Ozpat wrote:First I'd like the unreleased songs to be recorded and released.

Second I'd be happy with any re-releases. I'd be happy with any new official stuff actually...

Ditto.....

Give me something new...Oh Please!

Andy TG · 17 May 2006, 23:00

Seeing as Alice 93 version was released along with Under The Gun i feel it would be great to hear updated verisons of most, if not all the early singles.

Would not a 2006 update of "The Reptile House EP" be a wonderful thing. I know I would buy it, then again I buy anything actually "official"

Or course VON has already done the re-record / re-release idea with Body Electric in 1984 - utilising a 24 track studio and TOL 92.

Badlander · 17 May 2006, 23:08

Dario Argento once said he was strongly against remaking any of his old movies. They only have a meaning in a certain context, at some point in his life, etc. So I guess it's up to the artist to judge whether a new version makes sense or not. But to be honest, I'd be way more interested in an actual new album.

New version, why not ? But not out of lazyness, lack of inspiration, etc.

aims · 17 May 2006, 23:15

I'm all for re-recordings as B-Sides. It's nice to hear stuff updated and saves interesting new stuff from being overshadowed by an apparently "better" A-Side.

mh · 17 May 2006, 23:18

I'm not sure how much of TOL '92 was Von's idea and how much of it was the limit of record company manoeuvering he was prepared to accept at the time.

BE '84 really only existed as a service to the fans: it was impossible to buy the original 7" at the time, so here you go.

Alice '93 seems to have been a case of "Oh God, we need a B side!!!"

I'd say Von would be quite happy to leave the original recordings as they stand, and settle for the occasional live update. Although I'd LOVE to hear Damage Done '06

The biggest back catalogue crime by far is the 84/85 B sides. I say get them out (adding in Long Train and Emma to bring it up to album length), fix up the whole FALAA remix mess, then maybe - and only maybe - re-recordings become an option.

A new LP first, of course.

weebleswobble · 17 May 2006, 23:31

Fcuk it why not.........

eotunun · 18 May 2006, 00:19

I am with Pat here, I want the unreleased ones in a Studio version. That`s a good starter. And afterwards, a bigger bunch of brilliant new ones. Someday later, with no hurry. I still get my pleasure from listening to the old stuff, it`ll take quite some time for the (relatively) new songs to wear of.

Dark · 18 May 2006, 07:08

Perhaps a studio release of the medleys.
I wouldn't mind a studio version of On The Wire/Teachers/On The Wire.

kazamel · 18 May 2006, 09:17

no thanks, i'd say what's done is done and should be left untouched. if you want to hear the old songs in current style, go to a concert. chances are they've played within a 10 km radius of your home this year, so that shouldn't be a problem.
i don't like alice 1993 and as a fastidious fan, i'm quite uncomfortable with tol 1992 as well. making re-recordings of 20 year old classics seems pretty uninspired and smells like selling out. although the occasional updated studio recording as a bonus on the new 12" would be admissable

Doktor Gott · 18 May 2006, 09:19

mh wrote:
BE '84 really only existed as a service to the fans: it was impossible to buy the original 7" at the time, so here you go.

.

mmmm.. and it really was lacking compared to the original I think, its almost as if the primal rage has been chemically subdued..

Mind you, if fans were really after it they could have bought the "They Shall Not Pass" LP from CNT, though it didn't have Andrenchrome on it, did it?

Also, question, is it just me or does the They Shall Not Pass edit of Body Electric seem longer, perhaps a lengthier fade out?

18 May 2006, 09:21

basically wot mh said

Doktor Gott · 18 May 2006, 09:22

mh wrote:
The biggest back catalogue crime by far is the 84/85 B sides. I say get them out (adding in Long Train and Emma to bring it up to album length),

That was available on the some boys wander by mistake boot weren't it?

Crackling vinyl sounds included...

Badlander · 18 May 2006, 09:41

Doktor Gott wrote:
mh wrote:
The biggest back catalogue crime by far is the 84/85 B sides. I say get them out (adding in Long Train and Emma to bring it up to album length),
That was available on the some boys wander by mistake boot weren't it?

Crackling vinyl sounds included...

Most if not all of the 80-83 material was available as boots before SGWBM came out. I bet you still bought, didn't you ?

Doktor Gott · 18 May 2006, 09:55

Badlander wrote:
Doktor Gott wrote:
mh wrote:
The biggest back catalogue crime by far is the 84/85 B sides. I say get them out (adding in Long Train and Emma to bring it up to album length),
That was available on the some boys wander by mistake boot weren't it?

Crackling vinyl sounds included...
Most if not all of the 80-83 material was available as boots before SGWBM came out. I bet you still bought, didn't you ?

lol.. yup.. but then again I did have all the EPs apart from the first two singles on vinyl at that point in time.. jsut figured it'd save my records...

and I did get the sexy boxed US release of SGWBM, complete with postcards..

flakk13 · 18 May 2006, 09:57

mh wrote:I'm not sure how much of TOL '92 was Von's idea and how much of it was the limit of record company manoeuvering he was prepared to accept at the time.
...
Alice '93 seems to have been a case of "Oh God, we need a B side!!!"

I seem to recall that Temple and Alice was re-recorded as part of the deal to release Some Girls...

Stoat Grinder · 18 May 2006, 15:40

Doktor Gott wrote:
mh wrote:
BE '84 really only existed as a service to the fans: it was impossible to buy the original 7" at the time, so here you go.

.
mmmm.. and it really was lacking compared to the original I think, its almost as if the primal rage has been chemically subdued..

Mind you, if fans were really after it they could have bought the "They Shall Not Pass" LP from CNT, though it didn't have Andrenchrome on it, did it?

Also, question, is it just me or does the They Shall Not Pass edit of Body Electric seem longer, perhaps a lengthier fade out?

Cant speak for the vinyl but the CD of TSNP has Andrenochrome on it. Thats the reason I bought it... Dont remember Body Electric being longer though. Mind you I havent listened to that cd for quite a while. It's not a bad compilation really, there are some half decent tunes. Mind you there are one or two that are complete bobbins as well!

Dark · 18 May 2006, 18:05

The LP has both Body Electric and Adrenochrome on it. I haven't played it in ages though.

kazamel · 30 Jul 2007, 14:21

Stoat Grinder wrote:
Doktor Gott wrote:Mind you, if fans were really after it they could have bought the "They Shall Not Pass" LP from CNT, though it didn't have Andrenchrome on it, did it?

Also, question, is it just me or does the They Shall Not Pass edit of Body Electric seem longer, perhaps a lengthier fade out?
Cant speak for the vinyl but the CD of TSNP has Andrenochrome on it. Thats the reason I bought it... Dont remember Body Electric being longer though. Mind you I havent listened to that cd for quite a while. It's not a bad compilation really, there are some half decent tunes. Mind you there are one or two that are complete bobbins as well!

for the completists amongst us, there it is
personally i always considered this being a mysterious release, but the current bid doesn't really reflect that opinion.

silentNate · 30 Jul 2007, 14:26

Hmmm... I don't have a copy of Unionise by The Redskins in my collection

I'd buy anything new

itnAklipse · 30 Jul 2007, 20:37

What a stupid idea. But i'd still get the album.

A 2007 version of Amphetamine Logic, mmmm...

Maisey · 30 Jul 2007, 22:15

To be honest.

I couldn't care less about new material. Not one tiny bit.

What I WOULD like would be:

MORE gigs

LONGER gigs

MORE OLD songs on setlists

BETTER QUALITY sound

A DECENT hair cut.

If I could see a gig, with at least third of the set made up of FALAA and earlier material, all with decent sound quality then I'd be much happier than with a new album.

Yes I'm still sore that my only sisters gig was Astoria 06

Karst · 30 Jul 2007, 22:48

They should really throw up a decent live DVD.

PipoTheClown · 30 Jul 2007, 23:19

Well, I would be interested in buying re-recorded/new songs as
long as

would sing in Dutch, that is.

Especially YCBTO, there is so much sweet LOVE in that song, can't
wait to hear that in dutch...