http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3256945.stm
I think it's ridiculous...is this progress?
what do you make of this?
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As with everything else, it depends on your perspective. For the multinationals in the music production industry, it's progress towards reclaiming that good old monopology, thanks to having an enormous lever in the governments of the world.
To the billions of hackers and crackers out there, it's just more challenges to overcome. The same perspective applies to the Police, who probably take a dim view of chasing copy-protection violaters over murderers, rapists, et al.
Hell, even the media disagree; that article was definitely slanted. The only people who think this is progress are those who're going to benefit from it; Imperium Sony.
Go Figure.
To the billions of hackers and crackers out there, it's just more challenges to overcome. The same perspective applies to the Police, who probably take a dim view of chasing copy-protection violaters over murderers, rapists, et al.
Hell, even the media disagree; that article was definitely slanted. The only people who think this is progress are those who're going to benefit from it; Imperium Sony.
Go Figure.
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That's mental.the clicky wrote:Some have pointed out that fast-forwarding through the ads at the start of a DVD now contravenes the law.
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In other news, CD players (due to scratching), equalisers and biased speakers are all illegal because they create derivative works of the content played and phono cables are shortly to be banned because if it's analog, you can't do a f**king thing to stop copying. Even if the signal's encrypted, you just copy it after encryption and inject your copy back into the signal chain prior to decryption.
DRM's a royal pain in the arse, but it doesn't stop anyone from doing anything. Has nobody in a suit heard the words "Analog Hole" or are they just conveniently ignoring it so that they look like idiots?
DRM's a royal pain in the arse, but it doesn't stop anyone from doing anything. Has nobody in a suit heard the words "Analog Hole" or are they just conveniently ignoring it so that they look like idiots?
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Technically, doesn't some DRM stuff violate the CD Red Book standard anyway? If it won't play in a CD-ROM drive they shouldn't call it a CD.
And Motz is right; there's no way to stop analog copying.
And I've yet to find a DRM disk that my Mac can't rip. It just seems to ignore the DRM gubbins.
And Motz is right; there's no way to stop analog copying.
And I've yet to find a DRM disk that my Mac can't rip. It just seems to ignore the DRM gubbins.
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as does www.windac.de on my pcmarkfiend wrote:And I've yet to find a DRM disk that my Mac can't rip. It just seems to ignore the DRM gubbins.
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?
Unix forevermarkfiend wrote:And I've yet to find a DRM disk that my Mac can't rip. It just seems to ignore the DRM gubbins.
If it doesn't want to copy, dd if=/dev/cd0 of=/dev/cd1
Syntax probably not correct, since I'm usually a K3B using wuss
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Just whack it in iTunes:
preferences -> importing -> AIFF encoder (check the "check for errors" tickbox)
has never let me down yet
preferences -> importing -> AIFF encoder (check the "check for errors" tickbox)
has never let me down yet
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If this law is enforced then they'll end up fining the whole of Britain!
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Good luck, you bastards. They want to charge bands who put their own music on the net for free because they're scared a wave of Arctic Monkey groups will render Sony and Warner useless. They want to stop people from sharing music. Next thing you know they'll try and stop second-hand selling.
Well, a big FUCK YOU to the majors. If they want me, they can come and f**king well get me. Until then, I want to see our songs on p2p networks, until the world can hear us.
Well, a big FUCK YOU to the majors. If they want me, they can come and f**king well get me. Until then, I want to see our songs on p2p networks, until the world can hear us.
Or so they want us to think.Dark wrote:They want to charge bands who put their own music on the net for free because they're scared a wave of Arctic Monkey groups will render Sony and Warner useless.
My tin foil hat says that they're behind it to take advantage of the phenomena and quietly kill it off
Is this a joke?
We do have a Mr Ignorance - sorry Mingorance (the merciless...) mentioned in the article.
We do have a Mr Ignorance - sorry Mingorance (the merciless...) mentioned in the article.
Is this the same EU that has outlawed software patents?The EU is building these copyright laws into another, the European Intellectual Property Enforcement Directive, which will give even more powers to copyright owners to protect their creations.
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Load of old bollox.
We forgive as we forget
As the day is long.
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At the Sao Paolo press conference Andrew mentioned:
"He cited the record co’ Warner, whose charge for a bands (for example, Ed) is 1 dollar for music (a track), Warner will want to pay the artist, barely 1 cent. "
So who are the thieves?
The record companies complain about bands searching other ways of distributing their music? Guess why.. The economical risc is left for the artist, the profit for the company. Nobody would do his work under cicumstances such as these, except the dummies made by starsearch and related crap.
The dummies who buy such crap are getting less, as it seems-another hype wearing off. (Hope I´m right with my observation..) Just like the cocain fueled brains of the media mafia seem unable to produce anything else than short lived hypes. And complain to their friend, the president or minister, when people don`t buy it anymore, and ask him to make a law to make people do. The customers may take a different approach to the problem: Demand back the money if you can`t play the CDs! That`ll hurt.. and after all, you bought a thing that makes music when you put it in a player, something a lot of CDs aren`t able to do anymore. While the money you paid them surely works.
This very evening there was a report on TV (ZDF) in germany where it was said that a great lot of illegal copies come from turkey (not only asia) where the brand-pirates mix the copies (for example clothes) into the stream of athentic products. Under the eyes of the police, who don`t mingle, as copies mean a lot of money (and tax). In turkey, copying is illegal, too.. The loss to the regular clothing indusry was estimated to be dozens of millions in the EU, costing an estimated 70000 Jobs in germany alone.. The music industiry suffers equal losses due to this. Making DRM a joke, as the laws are allready there, only there are countries that don`t give a f***.
This the corresponding article to the program. It is in german, but I know a lot of you speak german, so I post it anyway.
"He cited the record co’ Warner, whose charge for a bands (for example, Ed) is 1 dollar for music (a track), Warner will want to pay the artist, barely 1 cent. "
So who are the thieves?
The record companies complain about bands searching other ways of distributing their music? Guess why.. The economical risc is left for the artist, the profit for the company. Nobody would do his work under cicumstances such as these, except the dummies made by starsearch and related crap.
The dummies who buy such crap are getting less, as it seems-another hype wearing off. (Hope I´m right with my observation..) Just like the cocain fueled brains of the media mafia seem unable to produce anything else than short lived hypes. And complain to their friend, the president or minister, when people don`t buy it anymore, and ask him to make a law to make people do. The customers may take a different approach to the problem: Demand back the money if you can`t play the CDs! That`ll hurt.. and after all, you bought a thing that makes music when you put it in a player, something a lot of CDs aren`t able to do anymore. While the money you paid them surely works.
This very evening there was a report on TV (ZDF) in germany where it was said that a great lot of illegal copies come from turkey (not only asia) where the brand-pirates mix the copies (for example clothes) into the stream of athentic products. Under the eyes of the police, who don`t mingle, as copies mean a lot of money (and tax). In turkey, copying is illegal, too.. The loss to the regular clothing indusry was estimated to be dozens of millions in the EU, costing an estimated 70000 Jobs in germany alone.. The music industiry suffers equal losses due to this. Making DRM a joke, as the laws are allready there, only there are countries that don`t give a f***.
This the corresponding article to the program. It is in german, but I know a lot of you speak german, so I post it anyway.
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