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Yesterday I listen to Cure's Disintegration, and the title track have the same rhythm as Dominion/ Mother Russia.
Don't you think so? I'm not the drumer but it's very similar and in result it's 2:0 for Sisters
i think alot of bands got the same drum parts, mainly because there s only some rythems you can drum, its just the arrangement of guitars, bass and vocal (or more) that make the difference.
Finn wrote:i think alot of bands got the same drum parts, mainly because there s only some rythems you can drum, its just the arrangement of guitars, bass and vocal (or more) that make the difference.
Listen to The Creatures, more specifically Budgie's use of percussion
and tell me that every band has similar drum parts.
I'm sure other drummers fall into the inventive category...
people help me out here?
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I'm really not convinced. Apart from the fact that they're both 7-8' long epics (a genre the Girls didn't invent by any means), I don't see what these two songs have in common. A drummer could put that in technical terms, which I certainly can't. But I think you worry too much.
BTW if it's 2:0 for the Girls, what were the other tracks ?
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Finn wrote:i think alot of bands got the same drum parts, mainly because there s only some rythems you can drum, its just the arrangement of guitars, bass and vocal (or more) that make the difference.
Listen to The Creatures, more specifically Budgie's use of percussion
and tell me that every band has similar drum parts.
I'm sure other drummers fall into the inventive category...
people help me out here?
Mmmhh i dont really see your point.
I suggested a drummer has got like.. lets call it basic rythems.
And that basis is being used alot, with the result of alot of songs and bands using the same drum rythms.
I did NOT say, ALL songs in the world revolve around the same drum parts, and i did not say there were no people doing different things.
I love The Creatures and Budgie is one of my favorite drummers.
But lets take Ginger Fish (Marilyn Manson drummer) who s got no inspiration what so ever.
Finn wrote:i think alot of bands got the same drum parts, mainly because there s only some rythems you can drum, its just the arrangement of guitars, bass and vocal (or more) that make the difference.
But lets take Ginger Fish (Marilyn Manson drummer) who s got no inspiration what so ever.
Good point then..
And I may have jumped the gun and or tom tom...
But I'm watching you.....
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With rock and roll music, you practically have to have a song in 4/4 (which means four beats per measure, with the quarter note representing each beat, or whatever--it's just standard). Couple that with the fact that it depends pretty much on the snare hitting on the two and four, the bass hitting on 1 and 3, and a hi-hat or cymbal filling in the rest with sixteenth notes, and you get fairly similar rythyms in everything. Most bands spend their whole careers deviating little from this (I'd have to say most of the Doktor's parts pretty much follow the formula), and it seems almost pointless to try to release commercial music that doesn't follow it (people can't shop or dance to waltzes, I guess).
It's not just drums, how many bands out there just use twelve-bar blues, with a bassist hitting the root note? Also, see intro-verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus-outro.
Prog bands use a lot of different time signatures; probably the best known example is The Pink Floyd's Money which is in 7/4 IIRC
Tool use a lot of "non-standard" time signatures too.
Back in the early days the Doktor couldn't do anything other than 4/4 (see Doctor Avalanche's tech notes) but these days they could probably get all sorts of time signatures from him... if they wanted to.
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8.5 wrote:With rock and roll music, you practically have to have a song in 4/4 (which means four beats per measure, with the quarter note representing each beat, or whatever--it's just standard). Couple that with the fact that it depends pretty much on the snare hitting on the two and four, the bass hitting on 1 and 3, and a hi-hat or cymbal filling in the rest with sixteenth notes, and you get fairly similar rythyms in everything. Most bands spend their whole careers deviating little from this (I'd have to say most of the Doktor's parts pretty much follow the formula), and it seems almost pointless to try to release commercial music that doesn't follow it (people can't shop or dance to waltzes, I guess).
It's not just drums, how many bands out there just use twelve-bar blues, with a bassist hitting the root note? Also, see intro-verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus-outro.
Top post.
But erm... people can't dance to waltz ? Waltz is dance music...
Maybe modern people can't do waltz.
@ Mark : Tori Amos' Spark is pretty weird as well. I was told it was in 11/4 or even 11/7.
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Yesterday I listen to Cure's Disintegration, and the title track have the same rhythm as Dominion/ Mother Russia.
Don't you think so? I'm not the drumer but it's very similar and in result it's 2:0 for Sisters
I just heard a Led Zeppelin song that sounded just like Neverland. I guess it's 3:0 for Sisters.