The Reptile House EP

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I thought this interesting - discuss.... :von:
The Reptile House EP
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"Use sparingly. Hide all sharp objects." - Adam Sweeting, Melody Maker.

The Reptile House EP was released in May 1983 and marked a considerable and significant change of style for the Sisters. Previous singles (Body Electric, Alice, Anaconda) had established a furious, intense wall-of-sound as the Sisters' modus operandi. As a sharp contrast, the Reptile House presented a suite of five slow, massively disturbing songs. Allegedly recorded single-handedly by Eldritch (though there is evidence that Craig Adams wrote the bass lines to some of the songs), the songs are characterised by stark, tense drum patterns, and brutally sharp guitar riffs, over which Eldritch laid his reverb-heavy baritone vocals. The Reptile House also heralded Eldritch's maturing as lyricist - here the Eliot quotes are woven into a coherent theme, the tension of the music reflected in the sinister, sinistra, lyrics, which are sung with (a frankly scary) relish. Though this new facet to Eldritch's songwriting appeared fully formed, it can be justifiably said that without the pioneering work done on The Reptile House, Floodland would have sounded a much different record. If you're in the right mood then this could be the Sisters' finest record. The menace of these songs persists to this day, and it is always revealing to take a look at the audience response when Burn or Kiss is performed live; the distress is almost tangible.

It is unfortunate that the glossary compilers do not have access to any contemporary Eldritch interviews which would give insight on the Vonmeister's thoughts on The Reptile House lyrics; in the absence of such illumination the following explanations are offered.

Kiss the Carpet
The song's use of a woman as a metaphor for amphetamines is all too obvious. I'm not aware of any references in this song.

Lights
The lights shine clear...red turns green
The lights are clearly meant to be traffic lights.

Ignore the voices ... but there's a voice in the distance...
Disembodied voices appear in other Sisters songs, for example Bury Me Deep and Marian. Hearing voices is a classic sign of schizophrenia, a condition which can be exagerrated by massive drug abuse.

Sodium haze
Street lamps often emit an orange light, presumably the result of the sodium composition of their filament.

Valentine
The razor bites and the shriek subsides / he arches clutching at his sides.
The opening couplet is taken from T S Eliot's 1920 poem Sweeney Erect, the eighth verse of which reads:

"Tests the razor on his leg
Waiting until the shriek subsides
The epileptic on the bed
Curves backward, clutching at her sides"

Eliot's poem is one of a series of three Sweeney poems which deal with the infamous Sweeney Todd murders. Todd, a barber, murdered his clients and disposed of the bodies by using them as the fillings in the meat pies sold in the shop situated below the barbers. Charming.

A people fed on famine
Previous lines in Valentine introduce TV as a numbing influence on mankind's ability to deal with catastrophic events. A repeated image on early 80s TV was the African famine; there is, of course, an ironic oxymoron in being fed by famine. Eldritch, for once, misses his target as the Band Aid/Live Aid organisations in late 83/84 demonstrated that famine was the one thing that was still horrific enough to shock the populace out of their complacency. Of course this just spawned a series of increasingly reflex, meaningless 'charity events': the genre reaching its crepuscular zenith with the nauseous Freddy Mercury tribute concert.

A people eat each other
Literally so in the case of Sweeney!

Waiting for another war and waiting for my Valentine
It has been suggested that Valentine is inspired by the juxaposition of Falklands war and the Charles/Diana Royal Wedding on TV in 1981.

Watch the body hit the files
This may refer to the burgeoning UK unemployment count in the early 80s under the so-called Thatcher economic "miracle" (also "a people stand in line"), or possibly it might be a reference to the death toll in the Falklands War.

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Sweeney Erect

Fix
The first four lines progress via a series of ribald rhyming juxtapositions, of which "corpse" and "corporation" is surely the most appealing.

Burn
Burn me a fire in The Reptile House
Reptile refers to the elemental evil present in every human mind. "The Reptile House" is a building common in zoos where, obviously, the Reptiles are housed. I would like to think that this is a metaphor for the Houses of Parliament; given the extreme political nature of Valentine and Fix, torching the Palace of Westminster would seem a suitable conclusion.

The syntax of this line is also reminscent of the opening line of Eliot's Sweeney Erect (q.v.): "Paint me a cavernous waste shore". I'm also reminded of Turner's famous painting of the 18?? destruction of the Houses of Parliament.

The Reptile House was also adopted as the name of the Sisters' information service which existed in fits and starts from 1987 until 1992 when it blossomed for four years into the most literate, enervating fan club going. Official Reptile House T-Shirts always identified the wearer as a "REPTILE" which was a dubious privilege at best. Sadly, these days it appears to be in decline, though one hopes...

There is a verse in Burn which is recorded backwards, and is not listed in the official lyric book. It has been transcribed as follows:

"The Catherine wheel around on fire
We will burn this circus down
The wheel goes round and the friends get higher
For the juggling men and the idiot clown"


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Too.. many.. references...

I never get round to listening to that EP. I always preferred Anaconda.
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Dark wrote:Too.. many.. references...

I never get round to listening to that EP. I always preferred Anaconda.
I like them all...
I float from one to the other, it's all in the mood. 8)
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"The Reptile House" is a building common in zoos where, obviously, the Reptiles are housed."
No waaay.
Put their heads on f*cking pikes in front of the venue for all I care.
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"The Reptile House" is a building common in zoos where, obviously, the Reptiles are housed."
No waaay.

Fact much stranger than fiction....... or is it diction.... :lol:
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The Reptile House was the first Sisters record I ever bought. Actually wanted the Alice 12" but Jumbo had sold out and all they had was The Reptile House. When I got home and listened to it was disappointed as it was so different from what I expected of them. But it had a lyric sheet with full band members named and a contact address. Became a firm favourite to fall asleep to after a night out down the Phono. I still think it's their most complete concept album. Very Pink Floyd. 8)
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Francis wrote:The Reptile House was the first Sisters record I ever bought. Actually wanted the Alice 12" but Jumbo had sold out and all they had was The Reptile House. When I got home and listened to it was disappointed as it was so different from what I expected of them. But it had a lyric sheet with full band members named and a contact address. Became a firm favourite to fall asleep to after a night out down the Phono. I still think it's their most complete concept album. Very Pink Floyd. 8)
Francis, ya cheeky mug how ya do'in? :D
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The Reptile House was thee one that really turned ma heid aroon'!
I picked up a guitar and joined a band.

Nuff said.
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James Blast wrote:The Reptile House was thee one that really turned ma heid aroon'!
I picked up a guitar and joined a band.

Nuff said.
Ok James, now I've got to know more...
What was the name of the band?
How long did you guys play?
Do ya have any recordings?

I played bass, in my past life......... :lol:

scratch that - I didn't really play bass so much as beat the liv'in s**t
out of the instrament.
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1. Hell, Death+Destruction (we were very particular about the '+' and not 'and' or '&')

2. 5 live gigs

3. only very badly recorded demos and a terrible soundboard where we were nobbled (thanks to Drunken State's soundman), we were never tighter as a band that night and we went down like a lead (sorry, you're Amerikan) led ballon.
Onstage sound - fantastic
Offstage sound - guitar and distant drums. no vox, no bass

We died.

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fuckin' great t-shirts, flyers and posters
we were a small legend in a small town for a year
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James Blast wrote:1. Hell, Death+Destruction (we were very particular about the '+' and not 'and' or '&')

2. 5 live gigs

3. only very badly recorded demos and a terrible soundboard where we were nobbled (thanks to Drunken State's soundman), we were never tighter as a band that night and we went down like a lead (sorry, you're Amerikan) led ballon.
Onstage sound - fantastic
Offstage sound - guitar and distant drums. no vox, no bass

We died.

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fuckin' great t-shirts, flyers and posters
we were a small legend in a small town for a year
Sounds like something to be proud of James,
I'm proud to know you. :D :notworthy: :D :notworthy: :D :notworthy:
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Weed them, James? :innocent:
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Some people just have waaaaay too much time on their hands! Get over yourselves, it's just a piece of round black plastic ! I find that some folk wish to read alot more into people's lyrics and the structure of songs than is actually good for them. At the end of the day ( avoiding cliches like the plague), it's just a bunch of songs, that were cobbled together back in 1983, nothing more - nothing less. And if deep down you truly believe that it 'changed' your life, then you really need some sort of reality check, it's not too late.Life's too short . Rant over.
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Ramone wrote:Some people just have waaaaay too much time on their hands! Get over yourselves, it's just a piece of round black plastic ! I find that some folk wish to read alot more into people's lyrics and the structure of songs than is actually good for them. At the end of the day ( avoiding cliches like the plague), it's just a bunch of songs, that were cobbled together back in 1983, nothing more - nothing less. And if deep down you truly believe that it 'changed' your life, then you really need some sort of reality check, it's not too late.Life's too short . Rant over.
Shallow waters run dry.......... :roll: :innocent:
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Dark wrote:Weed them, James? :innocent:
Indeed, keen to hear that ;D

And above all to see the undoubtably great artwork you supplied the band with :D
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sadly I don't have the tapes anymore and I'm no longer in touch with the other guys :cry:
I'm bound to have some artwork on file, somewhere I'll have a look for that
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James Blast wrote:sadly I don't have the tapes anymore and I'm no longer in touch with the other guys :cry:
I'm bound to have some artwork on file, somewhere I'll have a look for that
That would be great James! :D

Try to get in touch with them sometime who knows
someone may still have a tape.....
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I never got "The reptile house",having bought it after i got into The Girls in 85 and FALAA.I dashed out and bought everything and anything I could by the band and I just thought that it just didn't fit in.
However,when I was replacing my vynyl with cd and bought the Some girls.. compilation a couple of years ago,I rediscovered The reptile house and I now consider it to be some of The Sissies finest work.
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Ramone wrote:Some people just have waaaaay too much time on their hands! Get over yourselves, it's just a piece of round black plastic ! I find that some folk wish to read alot more into people's lyrics and the structure of songs than is actually good for them. At the end of the day ( avoiding cliches like the plague), it's just a bunch of songs, that were cobbled together back in 1983, nothing more - nothing less. And if deep down you truly believe that it 'changed' your life, then you really need some sort of reality check, it's not too late.Life's too short . Rant over.
When Von describes himself as "Kierkegaard meets Elvis", do you have any idea what he means by that? Probably not, so here's a little hint:

Kierkegaard (1813 - 1855), a Danish philosopher, sought to provide a service for his own contemporaries similar to that which Socrates provided for his fellow Greeks. He used irony, parody, satire, humor, and deconstructive techniques in order to make conventionally accepted forms of knowledge and value untenable. He was a gadfly — constantly irritating his contemporaries with discomforting thoughts. He was also a midwife — assisting at the birth of individual subjectivity by forcing his contemporaries to think for themselves. His art of communication became "the art of taking away" since he thought his audience suffered from too much knowledge rather than too little. (In this case things seem to be pretty much reversed, or perhaps one could substitute "information" for "knowledge").

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Ramone wrote:Some people just have waaaaay too much time on their hands! Get over yourselves, it's just a piece of round black plastic ! I find that some folk wish to read alot more into people's lyrics and the structure of songs than is actually good for them. At the end of the day ( avoiding cliches like the plague), it's just a bunch of songs, that were cobbled together back in 1983, nothing more - nothing less. And if deep down you truly believe that it 'changed' your life, then you really need some sort of reality check, it's not too late.Life's too short . Rant over.
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I can add some more insight to some of that keen dissection of one of my favourite EPs:

Burn:
A word often used to describe the process of igniting or the combustion of something. This song is hot.

Kiss The Carpet:
The word kiss is defined as 'the act of caressing with the lips ', obviously referring to Von's love of a fine Axminster. For years his legions of Gothic followers thought he was referring to a Wilton but this has never been proven.

Valentine
A veiled reference to the Sisters playing their first show 2 days after the popular calendar date for impressing birds with a gift or tokens of admiration, often bought in Clinton Cards.

:innocent:

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Kiss:
Either oral sex, or a drug-induced haze. Maybe both.

Lights:
About lights. And green things. And rain.

Valentine:
Some unpleasant images that sounded good against a guitar.

Fix:
An excuse for all-out bass with some words that sounded good together.

Burn:
An excuse to put a backwards verse in. About burning things.
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Dark wrote:Kiss:
Either oral sex, or a drug-induced haze. Maybe both.
You can give me hair and run your fingers through my head ;)

I'd let you have that reference, but Andrew has demonstrated an ability to be less than subtle on that topic ;D
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Have we done the bit yet about how Fix sounds just like Ziggy Stardust, but slowed down?
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MrChris wrote:Have we done the bit yet about how Fix sounds just like Ziggy Stardust, but slowed down?
You're refering to how the bass line kind of sounds like Ziggy's guitar part ?
Well maybe but only slightly I'd say. That wouldn't be a huge surprise anyway since Von is, quite understandably, a major Bowie fan. :von:
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