Techy techy techy

Obviousman · 11 Sep 2006, 10:06

It seems I've switched off my ability to change my registry while reinstalling my PC though I need to switch that back on (and preferably off again afterwards). Don't have a clue where/how/when I switched it off though

Any clues

EvilBastard · 11 Sep 2006, 14:46

Can I be the first to say "Buy a mac"?

Not sure I understand the question - will it not allow you to go into the Registry Editor? Sounds like maybe you've got the regedit set for admin only, and you're going in as a user?

Obviousman · 11 Sep 2006, 17:30

EvilBastard wrote:Can I be the first to say "Buy a mac"?

I was waiting for that one

Not sure I understand the question - will it not allow you to go into the Registry Editor? Sounds like maybe you've got the regedit set for admin only, and you're going in as a user?

Indeed, can't go into regedit, was thinking how I could properly formulate that (Dutch Windows

)

I'm admin and only user so it can't be that really. Searches on the web suggested a worm could block access as well so I am not at all at ease

(another solution they suggested didn't work either

)

Just scanned with three virusscanners, deleted a virus and didn't find anything after anymore, don't really know what it can be anymore

lazarus corporation · 11 Sep 2006, 17:58

Can I be the first to say "Install Linux"?

It's similar to buying a Mac (OSX is based on Linux) except that you don't need to remortgage your house to buy hugely over-priced hardware/OS (because it's free and it'll run on your current set-up).

Izzy HaveMercy · 11 Sep 2006, 18:01

Can I be the first to give you something resembling an anwser?

Have you tried starting Windows in Safe Modus? Then try to execute regedit.exe...

IZ.

Ozpat · 11 Sep 2006, 18:37

You won't be surprised when I say I cannot be of any help....

Good luck anyway...

Obviousman · 11 Sep 2006, 18:56

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Can I be the first to give you something resembling an anwser?

Have you tried starting Windows in Safe Modus? Then try to execute regedit.exe...

IZ.

Good idea

(that's f4 while booting, right?)

@Laz: I wouldn't mind going all geeky and do Linux, but I'm afraid it'll be hopeless to explain my parents how everything works then

Izzy HaveMercy · 11 Sep 2006, 18:58

Obviousman wrote:
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Can I be the first to give you something resembling an anwser?

Have you tried starting Windows in Safe Modus? Then try to execute regedit.exe...

IZ.
Good idea (that's f4 while booting, right?)

Either that one or one of the other eleven

Just push them all. Knock yerself out. You know you want to...

IZ.

weebleswobble · 11 Sep 2006, 19:14

f**k Macs
f**k Linux

Ah feel better already

mh · 11 Sep 2006, 19:16

Login as Administrator or a user with Administrator rights

Start - Run - gpedit.msc

User Configuration
Administrative Templates
System

Look for a setting called "Prevent access to registry editing tools"

Double-click it to get it's properties.

Switch it to "disabled".

Start - Run - gpupdate /force

Reboot.

Should do it. Dunno if it'll work on XP home though, they might have removed that stuff from it.

Michael aka Emilien · 11 Sep 2006, 19:26

Run only unlicensed copy of Windows XP on your machine!

ha-hah))) like me)))

Obviousman · 11 Sep 2006, 21:29

Techy techy techy 2.0 I'm afraid, even before solving 1.0

(that's a tomorrow thingy)

Went out to help a friend who has an old 95 machine (with CD-ROM drive and MSWIN95 CD) on which files HYMEM.SYS and HIMEM.SYS are missing. I guess I must be able to find those on the CD-ROM (on my own computer, that one doesn't boot anymore)? Now I'll just have to find out how to copy those files to the appropriate location there

Izzy HaveMercy · 11 Sep 2006, 21:34

Obviousman wrote:Techy techy techy 2.0 I'm afraid, even before solving 1.0 (that's a tomorrow thingy)

Went out to help a friend who has an old 95 machine (with CD-ROM drive and MSWIN95 CD) on which files HYMEM.SYS and HIMEM.SYS are missing. I guess I must be able to find those on the CD-ROM (on my own computer, that one doesn't boot anymore)? Now I'll just have to find out how to copy those files to the appropriate location there

Oh, that's easy!

Format c: /s

No, really, normally when you have your HD system-ready, it should work already and they have to be in the root directory (c: ). These should be himem.sys and io.sys... correct me if I'm wrong.

IZ.

Obviousman · 11 Sep 2006, 21:38

Problem is it's not formatted and I can't format it as there's some important data on there. (otherwise that'd be my solution number one

) Did the registry repair thingy as explained in the Win95 manual and even that didn't solve it

mh · 11 Sep 2006, 22:19

Obviousman wrote:Techy techy techy 2.0 I'm afraid, even before solving 1.0 (that's a tomorrow thingy)

Went out to help a friend who has an old 95 machine (with CD-ROM drive and MSWIN95 CD) on which files HYMEM.SYS and HIMEM.SYS are missing. I guess I must be able to find those on the CD-ROM (on my own computer, that one doesn't boot anymore)? Now I'll just have to find out how to copy those files to the appropriate location there

It's better to burn out than faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade away!

If you can get access to any working XP box, you can make a DOS boot disk containing himem.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys - just remember to switch on view hidden files.

But really, you shouldn't even need them on 95, unless your friend has some really exotic old 16 bit hardware. Just delete (or preferably rename) your autoexec.bat and config.sys and it should come up clean as a whistle.

________________________

What you really want is sys c:

format c: /s does the same - all it does it copy the system files across and make it bootable - but sys c: looks a whole lot less scary...

Obviousman · 11 Sep 2006, 22:35

mh wrote:
Obviousman wrote:Techy techy techy 2.0 I'm afraid, even before solving 1.0 (that's a tomorrow thingy)

Went out to help a friend who has an old 95 machine (with CD-ROM drive and MSWIN95 CD) on which files HYMEM.SYS and HIMEM.SYS are missing. I guess I must be able to find those on the CD-ROM (on my own computer, that one doesn't boot anymore)? Now I'll just have to find out how to copy those files to the appropriate location there
It's better to burn out than faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade away!

If you can get access to any working XP box, you can make a DOS boot disk containing himem.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys - just remember to switch on view hidden files.

But really, you shouldn't even need them on 95, unless your friend has some really exotic old 16 bit hardware. Just delete (or preferably rename) your autoexec.bat and config.sys and it should come up clean as a whistle.

________________________

What you really want is sys c:

format c: /s does the same - all it does it copy the system files across and make it bootable - but sys c: looks a whole lot less scary...

Have access to an XP machine (the very one I'm working on now) though I killed my diskette drive many moons ago

(after installing a CD burner I connected the cable upside-down

). I'll do the sys c: thingy then (just to get things straight: It doesn't delete any files on the HDD - like docs and so - except old Windows files does it?), as I don't have a clue how to rename files from an all black DOS-screen, been ages since I last fiddled around in one of those

Solved the regedit thingy Izzy's way (think gpedit.msc is disabled in XP Home, as you feared). Thanks a million for your help, all of you

(now all I need to do is hoping I got rid of that trojan on my PC

)

mh · 11 Sep 2006, 23:08

Obviousman wrote:
mh wrote:
Obviousman wrote:Techy techy techy 2.0 I'm afraid, even before solving 1.0 (that's a tomorrow thingy)

Went out to help a friend who has an old 95 machine (with CD-ROM drive and MSWIN95 CD) on which files HYMEM.SYS and HIMEM.SYS are missing. I guess I must be able to find those on the CD-ROM (on my own computer, that one doesn't boot anymore)? Now I'll just have to find out how to copy those files to the appropriate location there
It's better to burn out than faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade away!

If you can get access to any working XP box, you can make a DOS boot disk containing himem.sys, io.sys and msdos.sys - just remember to switch on view hidden files.

But really, you shouldn't even need them on 95, unless your friend has some really exotic old 16 bit hardware. Just delete (or preferably rename) your autoexec.bat and config.sys and it should come up clean as a whistle.

________________________

What you really want is sys c:

format c: /s does the same - all it does it copy the system files across and make it bootable - but sys c: looks a whole lot less scary...
Have access to an XP machine (the very one I'm working on now) though I killed my diskette drive many moons ago (after installing a CD burner I connected the cable upside-down ). I'll do the sys c: thingy then (just to get things straight: It doesn't delete any files on the HDD - like docs and so - except old Windows files does it?), as I don't have a clue how to rename files from an all black DOS-screen, been ages since I last fiddled around in one of those

Solved the regedit thingy Izzy's way (think gpedit.msc is disabled in XP Home, as you feared). Thanks a million for your help, all of you

(now all I need to do is hoping I got rid of that trojan on my PC )

sys is perfectly safe: http://www.computerhope.com/syshlp.htm

(just realised it doesn't get you himem.sys - but you shouldn't need it to get the machine up and running anyway)

try leaving a large wooden horse for the trojan

there's some tips for getting gpedit to work on xp home here: http://fhctech.org/fhc/systems/policyeditor.htm (scroll right down to the end)

if you can get at an xp pro box, all you need is to pull the files off it and do the necessary stuff.

there's a lot more cool and useful stuff you can do with it, like killing off a lot of the crap that windows assumes you want, all in a friendly and reasonably safe interface, so i'd recommend it anyway.

Obviousman · 13 Sep 2006, 15:01

Just went out to solve techy 2.0 except I didn't

Kept getting OE and OD fatal errors in VMM, VWIN, VCACHE and so on. While booting in safe mode himem.sys found unreliable XMS-memory in some address as well, appartently its drivers weren't installed. So still googling around for answers now

mh · 13 Sep 2006, 22:11

Yech! You have 16 bit drivers on that machine!!! Kill the autoexec.bat and config.sys for starters. You'll have vxd stuff next... I hope not!

Ocean Moves · 14 Sep 2006, 08:07

weebleswobble wrote:
f**k Macs
f**k Linux

Ah feel better already

this process has become unstable and will be shutdown.
Do you want to submit an error report ?

Obviousman · 14 Sep 2006, 10:25

mh wrote:Yech! You have 16 bit drivers on that machine!!! Kill the autoexec.bat and config.sys for starters. You'll have vxd stuff next... I hope not!

Was sort of giving up to be honest, don't think I can be doing much more with my quite average abilities

Thanks though