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At the risk of possibly going over old ground, which songs on VT would you consider the "rough" mixes, as per Von's comments at the time..?

Feel free to point me in the direction of a previous post if applicable :oops:
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Dunno!

Detonation Blvd & When You Don't See Me?
Dr Jeep doesn't sound 'finished' either..

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Dr Jeep, it has a pumping theme but not pumping enough. The beat hasn't a BANG BANG but a bang bang bang bang
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on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes
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When You Don't See Me.. I'd say the LP version is a rough mix and the "Remix" is the final version.
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For me, Ribbons, Something Fast, When You Don't See Me and I Was Wrong.

But what do I know..? :lol:
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My vote goes to Det Blvd, WYDSM and Dr Jeep. I agree on the WYDSM "remix" theory, it sounds pretty plausible. The rest of the songs sound too "finished" to me.
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Norman Hunter wrote:At the risk of possibly going over old ground, which songs on VT would you consider the "rough" mixes, as per Von's comments at the time..?

Feel free to point me in the direction of a previous post if applicable :oops:
the rare - Vision Thing, Detonation Boulevard, When You Don't See Me, Doctor Jeep
the well done - Ribbons, Something Fast, More, I Was Wrong
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paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
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bismarck wrote:
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
Indeed, but almost certainly true. I'm sure the 'rough mixes' are simply tracks that are quite finished but missing the 3 months worth of overdubs. So we can count 'More' out.

It doesn't matter whether Ribbons is raw or cooked, it's still the most astonishing 3-odd minutes of music ever committed to vinyl.
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bismarck wrote:
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
okay, may I? :roll:

So what are these TC demos you have then PiB? would you like to share them with us over in the weeding forum or are cryptic comments alone the order of the day?!
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bismarck wrote:
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
What's the point any more? This is a long running story with the same end result every time.

Not that it's PiB's fault that things are this way, mind.

They're probably crap anyway.
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bismarck wrote:
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
you got me AGAIN!!!

I can't even raise a titter with my 1981 silver machine and emma demos'. tis a fact, nobody cares :(


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deadagain wrote:
bismarck wrote:
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
okay, may I? :roll:

So what are these TC demos you have then PiB? would you like to share them with us over in the weeding forum or are cryptic comments alone the order of the day?!
as bismark so rightly pointed out, they don't exist...not even the belgian has the right version...it's all a myth. :roll:
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paint it black wrote:...it's all a myth. :roll:
Or a joke that way too many people have taken seriously.
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markfiend wrote:
paint it black wrote:...it's all a myth. :roll:
Or a joke that way too many people have taken seriously.
good point. well made :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Are you telling me you don't have all this stuff Ez? Well, you shower of sh*te! :lol:
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Planet Dave wrote:Are you telling me you don't have all this stuff Ez? Well, you shower of sh*te! :lol:
that's about the strength of it. sold/gave away most of the collection ealier this year to fund my model railway...and very nice it is too.

some lucky goth kid just down the road has some of the rarest sisters stuff around and he probably doesn't even know it :lol: :lol: :lol:
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paint it black wrote:
markfiend wrote:
paint it black wrote:...it's all a myth. :roll:
Or a joke that way too many people have taken seriously.
good point. well made :notworthy: :notworthy:


Does that include the fabled James Ray vocal versions?

Does anyone have a good clean & complete copy of the This Corrosion US college radio version? The only one I have heard is cut.
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Planet Dave wrote:It doesn't matter whether Ribbons is raw or cooked, it's still the most astonishing 3-odd minutes of music ever committed to vinyl.
You know, besides the obvious Football Thing, we share a lot in common, my friend :eek:
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paint it black wrote:
markfiend wrote:Or a joke that way too many people have taken seriously.
good point. well made :notworthy: :notworthy:


Does that include the fabled James Ray vocal versions?
Only Eric himself has a copy of that, as far as we know.

Though it's probably better than the final version. :lol: ;D
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Serious question:

Do you call Mr Marx "Mark"?

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The "James Ray Corrosion Demo" is a myth. After 20 years, it's not surfaced anywhere... it simply does not exist.
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