Well hey, that's infinite universes for ya!weebleswobble wrote:Pea and Ham from a chicken?mh wrote:Now that is bizzarre!James Blast wrote:Amen Brother! and why do all the major supermarkets put peas in their fried rice, I've never dined at a Chinese restaraunt that considered them an essential part of the experience?
Why does it matter?
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monkey spunkDarkAngel wrote:Motz - It's a piece of clothing. If we take away their choices then we can't build a relationship with them. And personally, I believe it is the women who are going to be the biggest moving force in the reform of that religion - especially the Muslim women who live in the west.Motz wrote:Western men have to deal with enough crap without having Muslim women insinuating that if they see their face the only thing that they'll be able to think of is f**king them. Sounds like gender discrimination and sexual harassment to me.
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
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Speaking of which...James Blast wrote:monkey spunkDarkAngel wrote:Motz - It's a piece of clothing. If we take away their choices then we can't build a relationship with them. And personally, I believe it is the women who are going to be the biggest moving force in the reform of that religion - especially the Muslim women who live in the west.Motz wrote:Western men have to deal with enough crap without having Muslim women insinuating that if they see their face the only thing that they'll be able to think of is f**king them. Sounds like gender discrimination and sexual harassment to me.
Why oh why does mayonnaise have to be on everything nowadays, anyway?
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
It goes well with chips!mh wrote:Speaking of which...James Blast wrote:monkey spunkDarkAngel wrote: Motz - It's a piece of clothing. If we take away their choices then we can't build a relationship with them. And personally, I believe it is the women who are going to be the biggest moving force in the reform of that religion - especially the Muslim women who live in the west.
Why oh why does mayonnaise have to be on everything nowadays, anyway?
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monkey spunk
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James, is this your car >
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still trying too hard
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No, no, it was really easy........James Blast wrote:still trying too hard
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that's what I mean9while9 wrote:no, it was really easy
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Is it opposite day?James Blast wrote:that's what I mean9while9 wrote:no, it was really easy
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Does anyone happen to know whether there were any men on the interview panal when she took on the job.....she wasn't wearing it then.
And with regards to the wearing of veils....
Reza Aslan's book No God But God has this to say:
'Although long seen as the most distinctive emblem of Islam, the veil is, surprisingly, not enjoined upon Muslim women anywhere in the Qur'an. The tradition of veiling and seclusion (known together as hijab) was introduced into Arabia long before Muhammad, primarily through Arab contacts with Syria and Iran, where the hijab was a sign of social status. After all, only a woman who need not work in the fields could afford to remain secluded and veiled.
In the Ummah [the Muslim Community] there was no tradition of veiling until around 627 CE [17 years after Muhammad's initial prophetic experience], when the so-called verse of hijab suddenly descended upon the community. That verse, however, was addressed not to women in general, but exclusively to Muhammad's wives: 'Believers, do not enter the Prophet's house....unless asked. And if you are invited...do not linger. And when you ask something from the Prophet's wives, do so from behind a hijab. This will assure the purity of your hearts as well as theirs."
...When Muhammad was little more than a tribal Shaykh, the constant commotion around him could be tolerated. But by the year 627, when he had become the supremely powerful leader of an increasingly expanding community, some kind of segregation had to be enforced to maintain the inviolability of his wives.
That the veil applied solely to Muhammad's wives is further demonstrated by the fact that the term for donning the veil, darabat al-hijab, was used synonymously and interchangeably with 'becoming Muhammad's wife'. For this reason, during the Prophet's lifetime, no other women in the Ummah observed hijab. Of course, modesty was enjoined on all believers, and women in particular were instructed 'draw their clothes around them a little to be recognised as believers and so that no harm will come to them.' More specifically, women should 'guard their private parts...and drape a cover (khamr) over their breasts' when in the presence of strange men.' But, as Leila Ahmed observes, nowhere in the whole of the Qur'an is the term hijab applied to any woman other than the wives of Muhammad.
It is difficult to say with certainty when the veil was adopted by the rest of the Ummah, though it was most likely long after Muhammad's death. Muslim women probably began wearing the veil as a way to emulate the Prophet's wives, who were revered as the 'Mothers of the Ummah'. But the veil was neither compulsory nor, for that matter, widely adopted until generations after Muhammad's death, when a large body of male scriptural and legal scholars began using their political and religious authority to regain the dominance they had lost in society as a result of the Prophet's egalitarian reforms.'
And with regards to the wearing of veils....
Reza Aslan's book No God But God has this to say:
'Although long seen as the most distinctive emblem of Islam, the veil is, surprisingly, not enjoined upon Muslim women anywhere in the Qur'an. The tradition of veiling and seclusion (known together as hijab) was introduced into Arabia long before Muhammad, primarily through Arab contacts with Syria and Iran, where the hijab was a sign of social status. After all, only a woman who need not work in the fields could afford to remain secluded and veiled.
In the Ummah [the Muslim Community] there was no tradition of veiling until around 627 CE [17 years after Muhammad's initial prophetic experience], when the so-called verse of hijab suddenly descended upon the community. That verse, however, was addressed not to women in general, but exclusively to Muhammad's wives: 'Believers, do not enter the Prophet's house....unless asked. And if you are invited...do not linger. And when you ask something from the Prophet's wives, do so from behind a hijab. This will assure the purity of your hearts as well as theirs."
...When Muhammad was little more than a tribal Shaykh, the constant commotion around him could be tolerated. But by the year 627, when he had become the supremely powerful leader of an increasingly expanding community, some kind of segregation had to be enforced to maintain the inviolability of his wives.
That the veil applied solely to Muhammad's wives is further demonstrated by the fact that the term for donning the veil, darabat al-hijab, was used synonymously and interchangeably with 'becoming Muhammad's wife'. For this reason, during the Prophet's lifetime, no other women in the Ummah observed hijab. Of course, modesty was enjoined on all believers, and women in particular were instructed 'draw their clothes around them a little to be recognised as believers and so that no harm will come to them.' More specifically, women should 'guard their private parts...and drape a cover (khamr) over their breasts' when in the presence of strange men.' But, as Leila Ahmed observes, nowhere in the whole of the Qur'an is the term hijab applied to any woman other than the wives of Muhammad.
It is difficult to say with certainty when the veil was adopted by the rest of the Ummah, though it was most likely long after Muhammad's death. Muslim women probably began wearing the veil as a way to emulate the Prophet's wives, who were revered as the 'Mothers of the Ummah'. But the veil was neither compulsory nor, for that matter, widely adopted until generations after Muhammad's death, when a large body of male scriptural and legal scholars began using their political and religious authority to regain the dominance they had lost in society as a result of the Prophet's egalitarian reforms.'
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well, that's basically the same as my post on the first page. Just longer. 
Put their heads on f*cking pikes in front of the venue for all I care.
Oh the wonders of 'cut & Paste'
I know you'd already said it but 'people' obviously hadn't noticed. I find you have to re-remind every now and again There's always people destined to be in the 'red group' who need things explained more than once Shall I try and develop a kinesthetic version...or a colouring in activity for them?
I know you'd already said it but 'people' obviously hadn't noticed. I find you have to re-remind every now and again
There's always people destined to be in the 'red group' who need things explained more than once Shall I try and develop a kinesthetic version...or a colouring in activity for them? Five cups of coffee just to be myself...when I'd rather be somebody else
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I sense an attitude young man.......Dark wrote:Because all cultures suck. America, England, Iraq, we're all the f**king same.
DEAL WITH IT.
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OK, I'll bite.DarkAngel wrote:Listen you misogynistic fool, it is her story which is all over the papers and apparently on TV too. Why should she have to defend herself? It is a harmless article of clothing. An intelligent person on Heartland (not you) recently asked why the Muslim community wants to stay separate from everyone else - this veil hoopla could easily alienate the Muslim women - which is not a good idea as they are probably the biggest advocates for reform in this population.
What the fuck leads you to form the opinion that I am a misogynist?
I'm not perfect, but I honestly find it difficult to think of a single woman in my life who I've treated with anything but respect.
But you are something else entirely. The biggest f**king waste of time and energy who has ever logged onto this fine site. I've given the benefit of the doubt for a long time, but you really are a f**king piece of work aren't you?
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Steven (smiscandlon) I have met, his misogynistic tendencies never featured. In fact, he seems the complete opposite - a gentle man, in the real sense of those words.
A nice bloke, like most Heartlanders, regular human beans (sic).
Has Amerika annexed HL?
please don't
A nice bloke, like most Heartlanders, regular human beans (sic).
Has Amerika annexed HL?
please don't
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I think your nasty comments punctuate my point.smiscandlon wrote:OK, I'll bite.DarkAngel wrote:Listen you misogynistic fool, it is her story which is all over the papers and apparently on TV too. Why should she have to defend herself? It is a harmless article of clothing. An intelligent person on Heartland (not you) recently asked why the Muslim community wants to stay separate from everyone else - this veil hoopla could easily alienate the Muslim women - which is not a good idea as they are probably the biggest advocates for reform in this population.
What the fuck leads you to form the opinion that I am a misogynist?
I'm not perfect, but I honestly find it difficult to think of a single woman in my life who I've treated with anything but respect.
But you are something else entirely. The biggest f**king waste of time and energy who has ever logged onto this fine site. I've given the benefit of the doubt for a long time, but you really are a f**king piece of work aren't you? :roll:
But then again, maybe not. To be fair, I hear that I hurt your feelings (something I don't enjoy doing to anyone). Perhaps you will consider I found your earlier responses (and this one too) hurtful as well.
As a gesture of friendship (this certainly doesn't mean you and I will agree on everything or even anything) I have healing hearts for you Tom Bosley....
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Like what Blast says, I fail to see how such a statement can be made Dark Angel?, those of us who know smiscandlon know how wrong you are and what an arse of your self you're making, do your self a favour and shut the fcuk up.James Blast wrote:Steven (smiscandlon) I have met, his misogynistic tendencies never featured. In fact, he seems the complete opposite - a gentle man, in the real sense of those words.
A nice bloke, like most Heartlanders, regular human beans (sic).
Has Amerika annexed HL?
please don't
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