Never Land (A Fragment?) [Reissue] - Comments, etc

[James Blast]

And James didn't notice that the keyboard tinklings actually do come in towards the end, as well as some cymbals that I rather like. Definitely one to put on repeat..... WAHOO.

I was in tears way before then Andrew

[Big Si]

And James didn't notice that the keyboard tinklings actually do come in towards the end, as well as some cymbals that I rather like. Definitely one to put on repeat..... WAHOO.

I was in tears way before then Andrew

Thanks to the wonderful world of the t'internet i've now heard this and like it very much

However, the tinkly synth should have been on from the very start

[Syberberg]

This Corrossion coulda done with the 7" version - it came, it punched us in the face, it left
everything else was frippery

I'd have kinda liked the cassette-single version...which reminds me, I must transfer that onto CD at some point.

[lachert]

it sound like a demo. there's a lot of empty space on the beginning but i like it very much
is there female vocals on it or is just too late?

[weebleswobble]

Demo form but it's still pretty intense. Cheers to my main man for the quick fix before I score my own connection

[Ozpat]

I love this recently freed version, but it lacks the production of (a fragment) - a spot of echo and those keyboard tinklings wouldn't have gone amiss. Aren't the restored lyrics a wonder in themself tho?

I will be patient and wait for these but without even listening to it I know that the MasterBlaster speaks the truth.

Already discussed this with him. Personal tastes I suppose but this version blows me away. I love the extra lyrics and I can now fit the song into the story behind it. Despite knowing the story, I hadn't noticed the relevance of the title but I can be a bit thick sometimes. It's a rougher mix than 'a fragment' but it's far more complete sounding than the Floodland demos. And James didn't notice that the keyboard tinklings actually do come in towards the end, as well as some cymbals that I rather like. Definitely one to put on repeat..... WAHOO.

Nice to read an enthousiastic report!

[RetroGoth]

I'd have kinda liked the cassette-single version...which reminds me, I must transfer that onto CD at some point.

I have a (US?) import of the cassette single of This Corrosion which is buried somewhere. Is that the same as what is on the UK version? I always prefered the very long version of this track which is why it never got played very often.

[Syberberg]

I'd have kinda liked the cassette-single version...which reminds me, I must transfer that onto CD at some point.

I have a (US?) import of the cassette single of This Corrosion which is buried somewhere. Is that the same as what is on the UK version? I always prefered the very long version of this track which is why it never got played very often.

I honestly don't know.

Oh, the easy way to spot if something by The Sisters is a US import, it'll have "Electra" on it somewhere.

[RetroGoth]

It is Electra. Must dig it out.

[Syberberg]

It is Electra. Must dig it out.

Interesting, I'll give mine a listen to and note down the differences so we can compare and contrast

[RetroGoth]

Haven't hooked up my tape deck (or the rest of the hifi!) since I started work on the house so there's an excuse to do it!

[spot778]

It might have been down to how much could be fitted onto a side of a record? How much can fit on one side of a 33 1/3 RPM piece of vinyl?

From what I've read I believe that record (pun intended) goes to Def Leppard's Hysteria. Something about a new mastering process. I think that album runs about 63mins which was insane compared to 40mins back then.

[Badlander]

It might have been down to how much could be fitted onto a side of a record? How much can fit on one side of a 33 1/3 RPM piece of vinyl?

From what I've read I believe that record (pun intended) goes to Def Leppard's Hysteria. Something about a new mastering process. I think that album runs about 63mins which was insane compared to 40mins back then.

I think I read somewhere that originally 33rpms weren't supposed to contain more than 36' of music and that after that the sound quality would decrease.
The Cure's Disintegration must also be close to 60' (the CD version is over 72' with two extra tracks).

[Big Si]

And James didn't notice that the keyboard tinklings actually do come in towards the end, as well as some cymbals that I rather like. Definitely one to put on repeat..... WAHOO.

I was in tears way before then Andrew

Thanks to the wonderful world of the t'internet i've now heard this and like it very much

However, the tinkly synth should have been on from the very start

It's growing on me every time I listen to it, definitely inspired by John Carpenter's synth soundtracks ("Assault on Precinct 13" for one ), always felt that this track should be used in the intro and credits on a classic movie.

And I love that extended bass rumble at the very end.

But yes, a little more tinkly synth earlier on would have been nice.

[James Blast]

It's growing on me every time I listen to it, definitely inspired by John Carpenter's synth soundtracks ("Assault on Precinct 13" for one ), always felt that this track should be used in the intro and credits on a classic movie.

And I love that extended bass rumble at the very end.

But yes, a little more tinkly synth earlier on would have been nice.

Preach Bro!

It might have been down to how much could be fitted onto a side of a record? How much can fit on one side of a 33 1/3 RPM piece of vinyl?

From what I've read I believe that record (pun intended) goes to Def Leppard's Hysteria. Something about a new mastering process. I think that album runs about 63mins which was insane compared to 40mins back then.

I think Todd Rundgren's Initiation clocks in at 72 mins

[H. Blackrose]

I think Todd Rundgren's Initiation clocks in at 72 mins

Something like that. Because even playing such a packed disk a couple of times would cause significant sound quality deterioration, Todd told his fans to play it once only to dub it to tape.

However, I think a much better idea would have been to ditch the abstruse synth meanderings on side 2 altogether. Side 1 on its own would have been one of his greatest masterpieces.

[James Blast]

I think Todd Rundgren's Initiation clocks in at 72 mins

Something like that. Because even playing such a packed disk a couple of times would cause significant sound quality deterioration, Todd told his fans to play it once only to dub it to tape.

However, I think a much better idea would have been to ditch the abstruse synth meanderings on side 2 altogether. Side 1 on its own would have been one of his greatest masterpieces.

Thanks HB and very nice to meet a fellow appreciator of Rod Weatgerm.

[mh]

The vinyl of Front 242's OFF comes in at well over 60, and Spiritualized's Ladies & Germs was also released on a single vinyl (can;t remember how long that one was though).

I rather like the full Never Land. Listened a few times now, and I think both versions have a valid place in the scheme of things. The 'fragment' will always be the perfect closer to Floodland, and nothing should change that, but the full one stands up well as an extra part of the story.

Having Emma on CD as well is always nice.

[Izzy HaveMercy]

This tune is just so


Perfect...

ANd I disagree with tinkly bits earlier blabla... let it build up until the end... Only the drums go too loud in the end IMO...

But mebbies a wee synth string pad at the end for the EXTRA atmos....

Hmmmmm....

Should I?

IZ.

[Big Si]

This tune is just so


Perfect...

ANd I disagree with tinkly bits earlier blabla... let it build up until the end... Only the drums go too loud in the end IMO...

But mebbies a wee synth string pad at the end for the EXTRA atmos....

Hmmmmm....

Should I?

IZ.

Don't you dare, you've ruined enough classic sisters tunes already!

[James Blast]

This tune is just so


Perfect...

ANd I disagree with tinkly bits earlier blabla... let it build up until the end... Only the drums go too loud in the end IMO...

But mebbies a wee synth string pad at the end for the EXTRA atmos....

Hmmmmm....

Should I?

IZ.

NOPE! it needs some Belgian keyboard tinkley replication, none of your 'string pad' Nac Macdoobry Feegleness.

Tis heresy!!!
Nae guid will come o'it I tell ye!

Wailey, wailey, waily!

[Izzy HaveMercy]

This tune is just so


Perfect...

ANd I disagree with tinkly bits earlier blabla... let it build up until the end... Only the drums go too loud in the end IMO...

But mebbies a wee synth string pad at the end for the EXTRA atmos....

Hmmmmm....

Should I?

IZ.

NOPE! it needs some Belgian keyboard tinkley replication, none of your 'string pad' Nac Macdoobry Feegleness.

Tis heresy!!!
Nae guid will come o'it I tell ye!

Wailey, wailey, waily!

You on that Special Sheep Liniment again, James?

IZ.

[James Blast]

You on that Special Sheep Liniment again, James?

try and spot when I'm off it?

[James Blast]

still listening to it...


AND SO SHOULD ALL OF YOU!

[Big Si]

still listening to it...


AND SO SHOULD ALL OF YOU!