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OK, I suppose it's no secret that I'd like to see a box set mopping up the leftovers from the recent reissue bonanza. And with the deletion of SGWBM and ASCOOB, and also a gap in the catalog numbers of the reissues, it's possible that there may be something. Not necessarily a box set now, but it's still interesting to speculate.

So what would you like to see on one? Here's my list. No Sisterhood though, cos Von still owns the rights to them. :(

Disk 1 - SGWBM with correct running order
The Damage Done
Watch
Home of the Hitmen
Body Electric
Adrenochrome
Alice
Floorshow
Anaconda
Phantom
1969
Kiss The Carpet
Lights
Valentine
Fix
Burn
Kiss The Carpet (Reprise) (Unfaded)
Temple of Love
Heartland
Gimme Shelter

Disk 2 - Mopping it up
Temple of Love (7" Version)
Body and Soul
Body Electric
Train
Afterhours
No Time to Cry (7" Version)
This Corrosion (7" Version)
Untitled
Sandstorm
Ozymandias
Temple of Love '92
Under The Gun
Alice '93
(A few of the extended versions can be added to pad out time, They're good, but not as essential as the other stuff on here).

Disk 3 - Radio Sessions, Demos and other Rarities
82 Peel Session
83 Jensen Session
84 Peel Session
Demos/etc
(Can't remember the running order of the sessions :oops: )

Disk 4 - Wake DVD
Nuff said!
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About the only things I can add to that are:

Long Train (1984)
This Corrosion (cassette version)

DVD

Wake
Shot Rev 2.0
The other promo vids
Old Grey Whistle Test.
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Syberberg wrote:Long Train (1984)
Already got it on FALAA. ;D
Syberberg wrote:Shot Rev 2.0
The other promo vids
Old Grey Whistle Test.
Good thinkin' - totally forgot them! :oops:
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Unlike the reissues, which appear to have had no time put into them, that box-set would be something I would buy.
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mh wrote: Good thinkin' - totally forgot them! :oops:
It's a Monday morning, so I suppose you can be forgiven ;D
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Now about a price for that monstrosity... :twisted:

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Why not the whole Munich 17.11.90 (WYDSM b-sides) gig or, even better, some Gary Marx-era show ?
I'm not such a huge fan of Wake. :innocent:
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Something with a stonking version of Good Things on would do for me.
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Bonus CD:

1) Sandstorm/Untitled (30-minute instrumental version)
2) Ozymandias (Extended Version)
3) Driver (Extended Version)
4) Wide Receiver (Remix)
5) Untitled (Floodland Demo Extended)
6) The Damage Done (Alternate Take)

..and I'd buy it.
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Badlander wrote:Munich 17.11.90 (WYDSM b-sides)
Not München, it's Hamburg!
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A Marx era show would definitely be preferable as the DVD element (late 84 when that lineup was at their peak - OH YES!), but I think Wake offers a more realistic prospect.
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A 7 or 8 lp box set similar to the recent Experience Hendrix box set.
(although not covered in purple crushed velvet)
All the recorded output on lovely 180gm virgin vinyl discs.


Drool.
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Pat wrote:A 7 or 8 lp box set similar to the recent Experience Hendrix box set.
(although not covered in purple crushed velvet)
All the recorded output on lovely 180gm virgin vinyl discs.


Drool.
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Pat wrote:A 7 or 8 lp box set similar to the recent Experience Hendrix box set.
(although not covered in purple crushed velvet)
All the recorded output on lovely 180gm virgin vinyl discs.


Drool.
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vicus wrote:
Badlander wrote:Munich 17.11.90 (WYDSM b-sides)
Not München, it's Hamburg!
Mea culpa. :oops:
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mh wrote: Disk 4 - Wake DVD
Nuff said!
Disk4 -Never Land, a jazz odyssey 59.59
That´s James never landing, I´d guess. :D
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eotunun wrote:Disk4 -Never Land, a jazz odyssey 59.59
That´s James never landing, I´d guess. :D
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James Blast wrote:
eotunun wrote:Disk4 -Never Land, a jazz odyssey 59.59
That´s James never landing, I´d guess. :D
You complete and utter bastard Jürgen!

You beat me to it!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I´d never beat you to do anything.
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Other additions to add could be:-

Under The Gun DJ Edit and the so-called Jutland and Metropolis mixes
Alice 1993
Temple Of Love 1992 (7" and 12" versions)

More (Power Mix)
More (Groove Mix)
(was there a DJ Edit of More???)
Dr Jeep DJ Edit / 7" versions
Live B Sides from the various formats of Dr Jeep
Vision Thing - Canadian Club Mix
I Was Wrong (American Fade)

Dominion (Remix)
Dominion / Sandstorm / Ozymandias Promo
Sandstorm
Untitled
Lucretia 7" version and 3/4 length version from 'Overbombing'
7" This Corossion (wasn't there a longer version again of this song?
The demo of This Corossion of course!

Gimme Shelter (studio version)
Knockin' On Heavens Door (studio version)
All the alternative / outtakes from FALAA

Whatever was recorded after First And Last And Always (including stuff from that gob shi'ite that most of us seem to loath!) :twisted:

Some of these have been bouncing around the web and bootlegs of course, hope I haven't missed any out or repeated what others have put. von and the record companies might be sitting on a little goldmine.


Here's a thought about reissues. All the CBS / Sony stuff from Adam Ant was reissued in two stages. The first three albums released seperately then the second stage featured three more, with a box set featuring an additional, exclusive CD. The first three albums fit inside the box set. When EMI re-released the Wonderful album, it was in download only format but had all the B sides and other rare stuff, such as a culled single. MCA could do the same - especially as there was an unreleased album sitting in their vaults. Whilst I dispise the lazy attitude of EMI in this case, that would be an example of a low-risk option to get more Sisters material out there to those of us who want it.

PS - don't forget about the Fairplay4WM program to get rid of the DRM s**t that's out there in cyberspace :innocent:
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RetroGoth wrote:(was there a DJ Edit of More???)
1993 Version? Hell yes. Nice and short, just how More should be. Almost listenable.
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Bottom line is that something has to be done about the bootlegs (from a beancounter's perspective, of course).

I see them in 2 main classes. Firstly, there's the genuine unreleased stuff, like KOHD, Jolene, Good Things, and so on, that pretty much every serious fan of the band would like to get hold of. Secondly, there's the umpteen alternate takes and live tracks that really only appeal to a certain type of fan.

A box set is the perfect solution to the first type. If it had enough appealing "GIMME!" stuff on it, it would definitely sell well. So come on Rhino - here's an opportunity for us to give you money!

For the second type, Metallica have hit on the perfect solution - just give them away themselves. Our Weeding and Sharing sections fulfil the same role, which is likely why Von (who I am pretty sure absolutely HAS to be aware that they exist) chooses to turn a blind eye. After 20+ years of being bootlegged, there is no way it's going to be stopped, so why not at least ensure that if the band make no money from it, then neither do the bootleggers? (Unless the band are the bootleggers, which is a whole other ballgame).

Anyway, digression over. What I suppose I'm trying to say is that while the various remixes/extended versions and so on would be nice to have, I don't think they should be put on in preference to the more obvious essential material.
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