Andrew-a high society chap?

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Ok, this may be stupid but anyway... :urff:

Andrew's pronunciation and certain things he said somehow made me think he's from upper class. I may be wrong but I'm just wondering....do you think he was a private school boy?
That he's related to "important" people?

I haven't found anything about this so please tell me if there's an article about it...
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The fact that he went to St John's College, Oxford, and was considering a career in the diplomatic service, before he discovered punk rock and "living above the Chemist", may suggest a certain social background.

But then again, he could have been in Oxford on a schol.
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indeed.... well, even if he IS from a "certain social background", they probably pretend they don't know him... :lol:
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I think nowadays they´d rather pretend to know him! :wink:
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A childhood living with a father in the RAF followed by (the start of) an Oxbridge education generally gives you a degree of elocution, even if you don't end up with a degree in Chinese.
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lazarus corporation wrote:...a father in the RAF...
Oh, yes, he was a forces brat, wasn't he. :lol:
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He went to Malvern as a boy. Public School. Should tell you all you need to know. My Step father went to Malvern actually. I always enjoy saying "you know which famous person went to malvern?" to which people from up there answer "Elgar" to which I answer "Eldritch"

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Maisey wrote:He went to Malvern as a boy. Public School. Should tell you all you need to know. My Step father went to Malvern actually. I always enjoy saying "you know which famous person went to malvern?" to which people from up there answer "Elgar" to which I answer "Eldritch"

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Is this confirmed? I understood that his grandparents lived in the town, but it seemed unclear whether he attended MalCol (my alma mater too). Other famous OMs include Bernard Wetherall (former Warmer Of The Woolsack) and Jeremy "yeeeeeeeeees, right..." Paxman. Also Aleister "Frightfully Nice Man" Crowley, who legend has it nailed a kitten to the chapel door using 10 nails to see if it really had 9 lives (the b*stard).
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lazarus corporation wrote:A childhood living with a father in the RAF followed by (the start of) an Oxbridge education generally gives you a degree of elocution, even if you don't end up with a degree in Chinese.
I swear, I had nothing to do with that! (Sorry, after all the lame jokes I've had to put up with about this, I just couldn't resist doing one myself ;D)
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Also Aleister "Frightfully Nice Man" Crowley, who legend has it nailed a kitten to the chapel door using 10 nails to see if it really had 9 lives (the b*stard).
Fantastic!

I have only read "moonchild". Because if a certain song :D I have this compulsion to know whats going on, so I had to do my background reading.
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Summers spent shooting the poor, cucumber sandwiches on the lawn, amphetamines by the truck load.

These are the past times of the upper class, no?
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EvilBastard wrote:Also Aleister "Frightfully Nice Man" Crowley, who legend has it nailed a kitten to the chapel door using 10 nails to see if it really had 9 lives (the b*stard).
Makes me want to learn black magic just so I can get him back to life and then kill him in the most shockingly painful way. Image

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markfiend wrote:
lazarus corporation wrote:...a father in the RAF...
Oh, yes, he was a forces brat, wasn't he. :lol:
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Maisey wrote:I have only read "moonchild". Because if a certain song :D I have this compulsion to know whats going on, so I had to do my background reading.
I can highly recommend The Magical World of Aleister Crowley, by the late Francis X King - short biography, very readable, nicely objective.
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Jesus if some historian will find this Heartland material in 2666 he probably thinks Herr Von is a Saint.

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dinky daisy wrote:
C'mon kids, the more we know, the more we discover we don't know much and the less we know, the more we fantasy about the fact: what if we knew more
Answers on a postcard please :lol:
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Planet Dave wrote:It's not where you're from, it's where you're at.

Unless you're a scouser. :twisted:
Spoken like a true Manc B*stard :wink:
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Also Aleister "Frightfully Nice Man" Crowley, who legend has it nailed a kitten to the chapel door using 10 nails to see if it really had 9 lives.
There nothing to be proud of...it only shows a weak level in arithmetic...
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:idea: me thinks andrew is in government now days just guessing
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Debaser wrote:
markfiend wrote:
lazarus corporation wrote:...a father in the RAF...
Oh, yes, he was a forces brat, wasn't he. :lol:
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:oops: In no way meant as an insult! :eek:

Anyhoo, the story of that old fraud Crowley nailing a kitten to the floor is most likely a tall tale put about by the man himself. Old Uncle Aleister excelled at self-publicism if nothing else.
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He also excelled at higher intellectual pursuits but that's another thing. Moonchild is, up to a point, an inspired work, but it's clear he got bored of writing it after a while. The ending is a mess.

As for nailing the cat, i don't think so.

As for Eldritch, intelligent people usually rise above the masses in one way or another whether born above or not.
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And I always thought the british would be snobs anyway... well, with the exception of the football fans which invade our german enclave on mallorca.
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itnAklipse wrote:He also excelled at higher intellectual pursuits but that's another thing.
Well, yes, that's true. I can't quite seem to break the habit of being disparaging towards Crowley; I used to know a few thelemites, and they would get quite irate at me when I did it. :innocent:

I also think he was a great practical joker:
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Ahráyeph wrote:
lazarus corporation wrote:A childhood living with a father in the RAF followed by (the start of) an Oxbridge education generally gives you a degree of elocution, even if you don't end up with a degree in Chinese.
I swear, I had nothing to do with that! (Sorry, after all the lame jokes I've had to put up with about this, I just couldn't resist doing one myself ;D)
:lol:

I do like stupid jokes like that Raf.... :notworthy:
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