More accurate Siscography please

Tidal · 16 Apr 2007, 14:34

Well, no really Blast don't mean to be annoying. Just curious.

I have been wondering about the way the Sisters' style developed over the years. Using a discography I found on the web I found out a bit, bit I noticed it wasn't enough- many songs weren't included, and the exact date of the song being made, not released, was also missing.

So could someone give me a list of pretty much all Sisters songs, ( if possible including stuff like Red Skies, Driver, demo's, earliest releases of a song) which gives the exact moments on which the songs were made. I'm inclined to think there must be something better than just the basic discographies...

Dark · 16 Apr 2007, 15:51

Best thing I can offer is www.sisterswiki.org

If there's incomplete information on there, then feel free to complete it.

Tidal · 16 Apr 2007, 16:15

I'm the newbie here, I have no idea

I found this http://www.sisterswiki.org/index.php/Songs which is the most accurate I've seen so far.

Now I see I am missing only 16 Sisters Songs (serious songs, not small deviations in text or music, or demo's):

Colours (by The Sisterhood)
Dance On Glass
Giving ground
Good Things
I Wanna be Sedated
Jihad
Long Train
Ozymandias
Slept
Snubnose/Top Nite Out
Stairway to Heaven
Still
Sugar Baby Love
Summer
Untitled
Uptown Top Ranking

The only ones I've never heard! 16 to go!

Dark · 16 Apr 2007, 18:15

Dunno why I wrote this out, but hey:

Jihad, Colours, Giving Ground on the Gift EP
Dance On Glass is the early ("karaoke version" according to one bootleg) of Black Planet with That Guitarist singing over it.
There are a few versions of Good Things.
I Wanna Be Sedated is a Ramones cover. Neither the Ramones' nor the Sisters' version is particularly good.
Long Train came on a flexi with Walk Away, originally. Get it on that, just because it's a flexi.
Ozymandias is on the 12" and CDS of Dominion. It's Dominion played backwards, with different (forwards) drums.
Slept is OK.
Snub Nose varies in quality from gig to gig.
Stairway to Heaven was only sung once (badly) but played a few times in 84 before Sister Ray
Still is alrightish.
Sugar Baby Love is okay, but nowhere NEAR as good as the Rubettes' original
Summer is.. well, not great.
Untitled is either the Floodland demo (stonking), the Dominion b-side (good) or the early Body Electric demo (poor quality recording, different lyrics, not bad)
Uptown Top Ranking could have been executed a little better.. I'd just get the original by Althea And Donna.. in fact, get the 7" version, for the dub b-side Calico Suit (by the Mighty Two)

dinky daisy · 16 Apr 2007, 19:52

Uptown Top Ranking

?

what's that?

Debaser · 16 Apr 2007, 19:52

Dark wrote:Dunno why I wrote this out, but hey:

Neither the Ramones' nor the Sisters' version is particularly good.

May the flag NEVER be lowered on hot days at your school

christophe · 16 Apr 2007, 20:15

dinky daisy wrote:Uptown Top Ranking

?

what's that?

Emma with the lyrics of the song "uptown top ranking"
played @ Lokeren 2005

Ozpat · 16 Apr 2007, 20:19

christophe wrote:
dinky daisy wrote:Uptown Top Ranking

?

what's that?
Emma with the lyrics of the song "uptown top ranking"
played @ Lokeren 2005

Love that one!!!!

Dark · 16 Apr 2007, 20:22

Debaser wrote:
Dark wrote:Dunno why I wrote this out, but hey:

Neither the Ramones' nor the Sisters' version is particularly good.
May the flag NEVER be lowered on hot days at your school

You know, I've never seen anyone forced to salute that flag.

And it's appalling in comparisons to gems like Howling At The Moon and Gimme Gimme Shock Treatment.

Badlander · 16 Apr 2007, 21:51

Dark wrote: And it's appalling in comparisons to gems like Howling At The Moon and Gimme Gimme Shock Treatment.

No. It's. Not.

Dark · 16 Apr 2007, 21:57

It really is. And it's on the mp3 player of every "die-hard Ramones fan girl" into the latest thing, along with Sheena Is A Punk Rocker and Blitzkrieg Bop.

I don't claim to be a big Ramones fan, but when they're the tracks that everyone has.. well, it's a little sad.

My Dominion · 16 Apr 2007, 22:01

Often I visit the follow sites for information about lyrics and songs:

http://website.lineone.net/~garynaylor/Lyric.HTM

http://www.zsd.co.za/~lucien/sisters/ly ... 67a9d36b82

http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/sisters_of_mercy/

Have fun !

Badlander · 16 Apr 2007, 22:10

Dark wrote:And it's on the mp3 player of every "die-hard Ramones fan girl" into the latest thing, along with Sheena Is A Punk Rocker and Blitzkrieg Bop.

It doesn't prove anything quality-wise. Just because a song is popular doesn't mean it's necessarily bad. Otherwise Dark side of the moon should be regarded as Pink Floyd's worst album (it's not my favourite, but that's not the point), Thriller as Michael Jackson's worst, etc.
The problem comes from those "die-hard Ramones fan girls", not from the song(s).

dinky daisy · 16 Apr 2007, 22:50

christophe wrote:
dinky daisy wrote:Uptown Top Ranking

?

what's that?
Emma with the lyrics of the song "uptown top ranking"
played @ Lokeren 2005

I didn't know that was on the set... a very special arrangement fot the dinnershow.

Dark · 16 Apr 2007, 22:51

I meant that if they would just listen to a few other Ramones songs bar those three, there'd be a chance some may becomes actual fans.

Unless it's all "we've got punk on our pink iPods, we're so edgy".

dinky daisy · 16 Apr 2007, 22:53

My Dominion wrote:Often I visit the follow sites for information about lyrics and songs:

http://website.lineone.net/~garynaylor/Lyric.HTM

http://www.zsd.co.za/~lucien/sisters/ly ... 67a9d36b82

http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/sisters_of_mercy/

Have fun !

I have fun!!!

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis ... /&lp=en_nl

translated back:

On the boulevard of the deflagration... By the angel rain by me tells the substance and gasolene by the cruelty of aliens to the neon dream information on long distance only where man breach steam a small little girl waits for my mail with a new machine on the boulevard of the deflagration... I became gesloopt in eldorado I was telegraphed, wit-ommuurd this heet-getelegrafeerde sedan I caught something bizar in Encenada I have a brother of types in Torquemada information on long distance make me separately if you can on the boulevard of the deflagration... Roze crash, blank crash, and a violet moaning sounded it burns no ends within this car no COPs, no signs, no linkerzijde, no right, no turning well can you run himself but you can ride not you will not far become on the boulevard of the deflagration.. The slap of the slap On the boulevard of the deflagration... By the angle rain by the rust and gasolene by the cruelty of aliens to the neon dream information on long distance I it same take I got the fuel for the transformation I am a naked flame on the boulevard of the deflagration... The slap of the slap

Maisey · 16 Apr 2007, 22:57

I sympathise with Dark. Welcome to the other side, where a good song becomes a bad one because the context that you keep hearing it is bad.

I might have given Mansun half a chance, in another world.

We all know that this kind of elitism is bad thing (and bad things are bad

) But I for one can't help a feeling of smugness and when I realise I'm the real fan and someone else is just posing.

robertzombie · 17 Apr 2007, 13:44

My Dominion wrote:http://website.lineone.net/~garynaylor/Lyric.HTM

Some probing on this site reveals this peice of information:

Comments: The first few pressings were available in gatefold sleeves. The CD version was remastered and released in 1992 and has been remixed. There is also a Japanese release available with different mixes and different lyrics to Amphetamine Logic (In Fact I Mean Logic!!!!). The American CD release is almost identical to the UK CD release, except for a slightly different layout to the track list on the CD itself, the inclusion of track times on the back of the case, and it appears to have been released on CD in 1985 not 1992.

Does Eldritch actually sing different lyrics or is there an incorrect lyric sheet included?

Are the Japanese mixes noticeably different? Where can I find them?

mh · 17 Apr 2007, 13:47

robertzombie wrote:
My Dominion wrote:http://website.lineone.net/~garynaylor/Lyric.HTM
Some probing on this site reveals this peice of information:
Comments: The first few pressings were available in gatefold sleeves. The CD version was remastered and released in 1992 and has been remixed. There is also a Japanese release available with different mixes and different lyrics to Amphetamine Logic (In Fact I Mean Logic!!!!). The American CD release is almost identical to the UK CD release, except for a slightly different layout to the track list on the CD itself, the inclusion of track times on the back of the case, and it appears to have been released on CD in 1985 not 1992.
Does Eldritch actually sing different lyrics or is there an incorrect lyric sheet included?

Are the Japanese mixes noticeably different? Where can I find them?

It's just the lyric sheet.

And you can find the different mixes on all CD reissues of FALAA before 2006.

Dark · 17 Apr 2007, 13:48

From memory (so don't take this as gospel), it's an incorrect lyric sheet and some of the "Japanese mixes" are on the 1992 CD reissue.

Dan · 17 Apr 2007, 13:52

robertzombie wrote:Does Eldritch actually sing different lyrics or is there an incorrect lyric sheet included?

Are the Japanese mixes noticeably different? Where can I find them?

He doesn't sing different lyrics, it's just a crappy lyric sheet.
IIRC when the album was released on cd they used the Japanese mixes, so if you have the cd then you've already got it.

robertzombie · 17 Apr 2007, 13:56

I have the original CD release and the Digipak...

Oo, that reminds me. On the back cover of the original CD is says:
(C) 1985 WEA Records LTD (C) 1988 WEA Records LTD.

I was always under the impression that this was released in the UK in 1988, or is it infact the US version which (according to the above quote) was released on CD in 1985?

CellThree · 17 Apr 2007, 15:50

robertzombie wrote:
I was always under the impression that this was released in the UK in 1988, or is it infact the US version which (according to the above quote) was released on CD in 1985?

Think it was a typo. I agree with you that it only appeared on CD for the first time in 1988.
IIRC the first Sisters release on CD was the This Corrosion single.