marilyn manson

6FeetOver · 04 Jun 2007, 18:31

...because he's a d0rk from some trailer park in Florida, innit?

6FeetOver · 04 Jun 2007, 18:37

Pista wrote:I wasn't surprised Dei, I was alarmed.
Big difference (IMO).

I was actually really hoping he was going to be some sort of evil incarnate & was relishing the diary of program.
But he wasn't.

I don't really want a regular geezer doing that kind of stuff. I want satan himself giving it large
If he is just a normal bloke, then imagine what hell could be let loose with a total nutcase

I think that is pretty alarming, don't you?

No - actually, I'm alarmed that you find this stuff alarming. "Evil incarnate?" LOL! He's not a sociopath/psychopath, unfortunately for him. Most folks are "regular geezers," sadly. Ol' Brian didn't name his band after 2 of America's most legendary (one famous, the other infamous) figures for nothing. He wants to be as memorable/notorious - I understand where he's coming from, but I probably wouldn't have chosen the shock-value route, myself (well, maybe that's why I'm still penniless and anonymous, eh?

).

James Blast · 04 Jun 2007, 18:40

from Holy Moly

Marilyn Manson, 14 stones of lard (dappled with eyeliner and a whiff of regret) has seen fit to inform the world that he is so fond of his favourite leather trousers that he can wear them for six days running.

Presumably after this they walk themselves down to the dry cleaners and beg for absolution. The hateful almost-goth with his man-in-the-moon pallor seems almost proud about the fact that his arse gravy and bell-end detritus are left free to roam his mountainous gusset. Though occasionally, his dark, satanic nether regions do get a bit of an airing.

"Of course, you have to take them off for some things, like fornication, but then I just keep them round my ankles."

Christ. Form a queue, ladies, soon his vinegar-stinking genitals could be approaching a duvet near you soon, and leaving a brown slug-trail across those new Egyptian cotton sheets.

6FeetOver · 04 Jun 2007, 18:45

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

itnAklipse · 04 Jun 2007, 19:09

Point taken, Pista. A few years back i was also "surprised", or alarmed

, when i saw him in some MTV doc in Japan and he was really acting like a regular joe. And i guess until that i had taken him semi-seriously.

That, and seeing a concert video where he was sucking up to school kids haha.

Mind you, i also think some of his songs are rather catchy, if not exactly inspired. But they do know how to write catchy ones, at least. It's aiming for the lowest common denominator and all that.
Then add some notorious loud sounds and bad words like 'sodomy' and there you have a guaranteed "counter-culture" success. It's a very simple formula by which he lives.

Reminds me of WASP, kinda

If he was really notorious, like, say, Burzum, or hell, even Skinny Puppy, MTV would be ignoring him just in the same way they are ignoring bands like Burzum and Skinny Puppy and all their likes. But he's there to deliver a message to the failures, unfortunately.

Izzy HaveMercy · 04 Jun 2007, 19:19

I'm not ignoring Burzum

He made some fantastic music. He's a couple of cards short of a full deck, admittedly, but Filosofem for example is a stunning piece of art, IMO.

For the rest, he's just a cnut with too much time on his hands and too many matches to burn churches with

IZ.

6FeetOver · 04 Jun 2007, 19:28

I dunno. I suspect that I'm just jaded in my old age. Nothing in entertainment really shocks or impresses me, anymore. The (ever-reaching/ever-expanding) extent of human depravity, on the other hand, is chilling. Compared to the real Manson and his ilk, the goofy/d0rky Brian Warner from Florida is a pussycat.

Purple Light · 04 Jun 2007, 19:45

I used to love Manson (still do really but I stopped enjoying the music after Mechanical Animals).

I really bought into the whole shock rock thing. Antichrist Superstar came out when I was 16 so I was perfect fodder I suppose. Saw them live that year at Leeds Town & Country club & its still my favourite (other than the Sisters) gig.

I'd strongly suggest reading his autobiography, The Long Hard Road Out Of Hell. Hilarious, harrowing & frankly worrying at times. Best autobiography I've read.

Can't stand that new song though.

wild bill buttock · 04 Jun 2007, 20:45

On the stregth of "Beautiful people" I went to see them/him/it on The antichrist superstar tour.Great theatre-p*ss poor mainstream heavy metal music.

smiscandlon · 04 Jun 2007, 20:52

wild bill buttock wrote:On the stregth of "Beautiful people" I went to see them/him/it on The antichrist superstar tour.Great theatre-p*ss poor mainstream heavy metal music.

Yeah. I'm not really that familiar with his work, but from what I've seen / heard it seems to be pretty unremarkable rock music, 'shock' imagery aside.

Not bad, just nothing as original as his image would imply.