Article by Tom Hodgkinson (aka 'The Outsider' & Editor of 'The Idler') in Sunday's 'Seven' (p.6) - supplement to The Sunday Telegraph (19/08/07) ...
Comments please?!?
Personally I quite like: Staring at the Wall/Ceiling/Clouds ...
Watch television? I'd rather read a seed catalogue ...
- itnAklipse
- Slight Overbomber
- Posts: 1541
- Joined: 09 Jun 2003, 08:12
- Location: set adrift
- Contact:
i have no idea why someone would watch television. People should have their own lives and make their own choises...plus regarding this, all the series you people want to watch are nothing, nothing at all, but propaganda, and this is a fact and not a matter of opinion.
i've no idea why ppl spend their time with entertainment, either.
And i can't tell you the number of hours i've spent this summer lying down on my back in the forest staring at the clouds.
i've no idea why ppl spend their time with entertainment, either.
And i can't tell you the number of hours i've spent this summer lying down on my back in the forest staring at the clouds.
we've got beer and we've got fuel
- itnAklipse
- Slight Overbomber
- Posts: 1541
- Joined: 09 Jun 2003, 08:12
- Location: set adrift
- Contact:
Actually, music can be either art or entertainment, no?
we've got beer and we've got fuel
- 6FeetOver
- Childlike Empress
- Posts: 7683
- Joined: 25 Jan 2002, 00:00
- Location: way on down south, New London town...
- Contact:
That sounds incredibly lovely, actually...itnAklipse wrote:And i can't tell you the number of hours i've spent this summer lying down on my back in the forest staring at the clouds.
I left my heart in Ballycastle...
- itnAklipse
- Slight Overbomber
- Posts: 1541
- Joined: 09 Jun 2003, 08:12
- Location: set adrift
- Contact:
SIN: In a sense, but in that case 'entertaining' loses it's meaning...i mean, i consider entertainment as something to pass time with comfortably. Whilst doing something purposeful is never boring, it can be challenging and painful and difficult, which are not hallmarks of entertainment. But nor does it need to be that all the time.
It's been the only real times of peace in my life this summer But even if it wasn't, i'd have done the same, it's ... incredibly entertaining With either music or the sounds of nature.That sounds incredibly lovely, actually...
we've got beer and we've got fuel
- 6FeetOver
- Childlike Empress
- Posts: 7683
- Joined: 25 Jan 2002, 00:00
- Location: way on down south, New London town...
- Contact:
Interesting...for me, being "entertained" means that I'm somehow interacting with the medium at hand...actively involved, rather than passively absorbing. Otherwise, I'm just bored.
I left my heart in Ballycastle...
- itnAklipse
- Slight Overbomber
- Posts: 1541
- Joined: 09 Jun 2003, 08:12
- Location: set adrift
- Contact:
Active interaction doesn't occur in entertainment in my experience Like watching football. But nor is playing football much else but entertainment regardless of the active involvement.
Yet i consider myself active (though not interacting) when staring at the clouds. Well, perhaps there's nothing more active than communing with Infinity to me.
At any rate, active/passive are decidedly human concepts and one really should get passed both of them. Be both at the same time without being either. (And the fact that for the observer it would look like one is at times passive and at times active, doesn't change what's really going on).
Yet i consider myself active (though not interacting) when staring at the clouds. Well, perhaps there's nothing more active than communing with Infinity to me.
At any rate, active/passive are decidedly human concepts and one really should get passed both of them. Be both at the same time without being either. (And the fact that for the observer it would look like one is at times passive and at times active, doesn't change what's really going on).
we've got beer and we've got fuel
- boudicca
- Sister Midnight
- Posts: 7427
- Joined: 15 Sep 2004, 16:15
- Location: embrace the margin
- Contact:
I sure as hell would rather read a seed catalogue than the Telegraph!
Looked up the article... there's not really much you can say against it, television is pretty much wall to wall s**t. I am sitting now with the usual mid-morning succession of programmes about people buying houses on, that sort of thing really f**king drives me mad. So much of the television schedule seems to consist of people doing the most mundane things... if you want to watch people argue, scratch their arses and talk about having bought their new house, just sit on a park bench for a while and you'll get it for free.
Looked up the article... there's not really much you can say against it, television is pretty much wall to wall s**t. I am sitting now with the usual mid-morning succession of programmes about people buying houses on, that sort of thing really f**king drives me mad. So much of the television schedule seems to consist of people doing the most mundane things... if you want to watch people argue, scratch their arses and talk about having bought their new house, just sit on a park bench for a while and you'll get it for free.
There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets
- psichonaut
- Overbomber
- Posts: 2703
- Joined: 29 Mar 2007, 20:37
- Location: somewhere in time in italy
- Contact:
try to watch "my sweet sixteen", i watched it on MTV sometimes....i think you can't watch tv after that
thanks...my Lord...i'm unbeliver
tear up your pants for psicho...and jump on him
tear up your pants for psicho...and jump on him
People who watch TV are making their own choices and do have their own lives...........they choose to watch TV.itnAklipse wrote:i have no idea why someone would watch television. People should have their own lives and make their own choises..
Being brave is coming home at 2am half drunk, smelling of perfume, climbing into bed, slapping the wife on the arse and saying,"right fatty, you're next!!"
People watch telly because sometimes they have Doctor Who on. Easy, huh?
So I assume that watching a documentary series on the complete works of Kierkegaard is less nobel than reading a book about it?itnAklipse wrote:i have no idea why someone would watch television. People should have their own lives and make their own choises...plus regarding this, all the series you people want to watch are nothing, nothing at all, but propaganda, and this is a fact and not a matter of opinion.
If TV is propoganda, so is the printed word.
- emilystrange
- Above the Chemist
- Posts: 9031
- Joined: 03 Nov 2003, 20:26
- Location: Lady Strange's boudoir.
and what about football? entertainment, torture and interaction all in one.
I don't wanna live like I don't mind
- psichonaut
- Overbomber
- Posts: 2703
- Joined: 29 Mar 2007, 20:37
- Location: somewhere in time in italy
- Contact:
....and competition, happiness, sorrow....emilystrange wrote:and what about football? entertainment, torture and interaction all in one.
thanks...my Lord...i'm unbeliver
tear up your pants for psicho...and jump on him
tear up your pants for psicho...and jump on him
- emilystrange
- Above the Chemist
- Posts: 9031
- Joined: 03 Nov 2003, 20:26
- Location: Lady Strange's boudoir.
dismay, anger, passion and ridicule
I don't wanna live like I don't mind
- James Blast
- Banned
- Posts: 24699
- Joined: 11 Jun 2003, 18:58
- Location: back from some place else
you are a droiditnAklipse wrote:Active interaction doesn't occur in entertainment in my experience
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
~ Peter Steele
- emilystrange
- Above the Chemist
- Posts: 9031
- Joined: 03 Nov 2003, 20:26
- Location: Lady Strange's boudoir.
not even in sex?
I don't wanna live like I don't mind
- James Blast
- Banned
- Posts: 24699
- Joined: 11 Jun 2003, 18:58
- Location: back from some place else
pished againitnAklipse wrote:And i can't tell you the number of hours i've spent this summer lying down on my back in the forest staring at the clouds.
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
~ Peter Steele
- reactiv8
- Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 568
- Joined: 16 Jul 2007, 03:27
- Location: The Horror
That's just the response I was hoping for! - Respect Matey!itnAklipse wrote:i have no idea why someone would watch television. People should have their own lives and make their own choises...plus regarding this, all the series you people want to watch are nothing, nothing at all, but propaganda, and this is a fact and not a matter of opinion.
i've no idea why ppl spend their time with entertainment, either.
And i can't tell you the number of hours i've spent this summer lying down on my back in the forest staring at the clouds.