Big Si wrote:Syberberg wrote:boudicca wrote:I wouldn't be at all surprised if those who define themselves as goffix were less likely to commit a violent crime than average...
Quite right, back when I was living in the Northeast, the 2 clubs I frequented, Blazes, in Middlesborough, and The Gemini, in Hartlepool, the bouncers enjoyed the "alternative" nights as there was never any trouble. Except from random trendies who arrived with the specific purpose of causing trouble.
Wasn't Blazes on a Saturday? I remember there was another Middlesbrough club night, but I can't remember the name of it!
It were House music downstairs and metal-goth-indie upstairs.
Blazes was Thursday and Saturday, The Gemini Thursdays and the upstairs/downstairs was The Arena.
EDIT: Regarding "chavs". There has always been a section of the white urban lower-class youth that have been violent towards one another and everyone else outside their tribe. You can trace it's modern roots back to the Mods and Rocks, possibly the Teddy Boys as well. The problem now, however, is that as a percentage of the population it's grown as the numbers of "have nots" has grown and the cohesive society has broken down. The demographic group in question has been given different slang names in different decades in the UK. In the 1980's they were called "trendies", in the nineties they were "larger louts" and now we have "chavs".
The other problem we have now, is that the violence isn't just restricted to the male members of the group, but females are becoming just as violent.
SINsister, the Maldive Islands in the Indian Ocean have always had a matriarchal society and some of the Celtic tribes traced inheritance and lineage through the female line. Then there's the Nagovisi of South Bougainville (an island west of New Guinea and north of Australia), the Khasi and the Garo, who are agricultural peoples who live in hill districts in Meghalaya state in North-Eastern India, the Machiguenga people of Peru and the Mosuo people, who live in the Xiaolianghshan Mountains, Yunnan province (South East China).
As for male domination being the problem, I agree, but it's more of a cause rather than an effect, IMHO.
I don't necessarily agree with everything I think.