this is england????

golfinggoth · 29 Mar 2008, 01:03

Nic · 29 Mar 2008, 01:07

Eeh nope, it doesn't look right to me...

golfinggoth · 29 Mar 2008, 01:09

if the link doesnt work try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TQfdpdKFy4

Nic · 29 Mar 2008, 01:28

It's really sad.

Have seen the video before, brought tears down my face then as well.

eotunun · 29 Mar 2008, 02:14

Aye. Truely sad. that's one "Sapiens" less for the Homo Sapiens Sapiens, if you ask me.

And then, Golfingoff, it's BBC code here, not HTML.

Easier to handle et all. See here.

It's so simple, even I got it after a while.

Bartek · 29 Mar 2008, 16:24

it's sad every time when somebody died or being assaulted just for "fun" or just because he/she was no like other (assaulters of course).

I've met my from-cradle friend, and he told me that he was assaulted be group of 5 faggots,fuds, god damned pussies, just because he was walking on the pavement for absolutely nothing, no words just punch. in the midnight, almost i the city centre ! near our home! in our f**king neighbourhood! luckily he ran away. that's the sicko, that's the western style of having a good time, that's our youth - future of our nations

i don't want to be unfair, but would you be so shocked when somebody from different subculture been attacked and died ?

6FeetOver · 29 Mar 2008, 16:52

Bartek wrote:i don't want to be unfair, but would you be so shocked when somebody from different subculture been attacked and died ?

Yes. Humans never fail to shock me with their mindless brutality.

Bartek · 29 Mar 2008, 17:21

that's good

Thea · 29 Mar 2008, 17:22

SINsister wrote:
Bartek wrote:i don't want to be unfair, but would you be so shocked when somebody from different subculture been attacked and died ?
Yes. Humans never fail to shock me with their mindless brutality.

Yep.
Also it wasn't so much the fact she belonged to a subculture where I have a lot of friends, it was the fact she was killed for what she wore. It's every bit as insane as killing someone because they were wearing green socks.

6FeetOver · 29 Mar 2008, 17:25

...or because his/her skin's the "wrong" color, etc.

6FeetOver · 29 Mar 2008, 21:06

It's certainly not just England, either. Check this out...

Hexe Luciferia · 29 Mar 2008, 21:18

SINsister wrote:It's certainly not just England, either. Check this out...

I'm appalled...

MadameButterfly · 29 Mar 2008, 21:35

Oh dear Sinnie, it's all over the world really ain't it?

Both of your posts really, it's the sad world we live in when our younger generations have no right to just be themselves anymore.
We can blame the computer world or television or games played with violence and the killing.
We can blame the governments around the world as still history has not taught us a single thing.
We can blame parents, not all should breed as sometimes the horrors of what a child is born into in this bad world it's quite shocking!
We can blame religion as that's still a huge problem when laws are based on it.
We can blame the outside world in most countries where war and violence are just a daily part of being alive and then we can
Blame the horrors of sick peoples minds in this world of beauty where we as humans make it ugly and horrible and sick and bloodthirsty.
We can blame MONEY and the worldly wealth of this world as that famous saying goes..."MONEY makes the WORLD go round"...our corrupt world those horrors, that kill the spirit, just because they are out there but then again the mercy of us or those that feel peace and radiate it and smile in dark days, in dark times to those strangers that need a smile to lighten their day.

We can blame on and on or we can take a stand as people in this world.
If in peace things can be done, it would be a start.
But peace on a global scale is a thing laughed at but with determination could work if all guns and violence and wars stop. Really...or am I missing the whole big picture of it all?

The younger generations are being taught the wrong things and the feeling isn't there anymore! The hungry stay hungry and die, the poor die everyday in this world and you would think we should be caring for our young and elderly and sick and helpless and many do do their best for many a thing but the larger amount are just uninformered or kept under the power of corrupt leaders and this world, that has gone mad because we are of this earth and maybe there are just too many of us...we are too clever and advanced, we think in our minds but it's just a case of time we don't have, so it's the preparing of the coming of times in hard reality...

Something is pissed off out there in the universe or it's just the written history of earth and her people but it's been one hell of a ride so far and I'm up to fight it to the end. In peace of course and must understand.

Now how's that for a little thought of a positive kind hey?

6FeetOver · 29 Mar 2008, 21:38

Aye.

psichonaut · 29 Mar 2008, 21:40

Hexe Luciferia wrote:
SINsister wrote:It's certainly not just England, either. Check this out...
I'm appalled...

me not ....and sometimes i ask to myself if some of you is never gone out of his home door

Syberberg · 29 Mar 2008, 22:29

psichonaut wrote:
Hexe Luciferia wrote:
SINsister wrote:It's certainly not just England, either. Check this out...
I'm appalled...
me not ....and sometimes i ask to myself if some of you is never gone out of his home door

The same here sometimes. Does that mean I condone it? In all honesty, yes it does,

Do I bat an eyelid, or shed a tear, whenever a chav gets stabbed or beaten up? Nope. It doesn't even register. Why? Because they are not part of my "tribe".

For all the talk of "human enlightenment", humans haven't evolved beyond the tribal level. Sure, we've advanced technologically and scientifically. We understand the world and universe around us far better than ever. Yet still we divide ourselves up into tribes. We still fear "The Other."

The nation. The region. The county. The town/city/village. The school we went to. The sports team we support. The music we like. The subculture we belong to. The job or industry we work in. Political affiliation. Religion. It's all a form of tribalism. It's how all humans define themselves, by which particular tribal group they belong to.

At its basic foundation, human society and social structure hasn't changed in 10,000 years. In modern society, this has been masked by individuals belonging to more than one tribe simultaneously.

6FeetOver · 29 Mar 2008, 22:33

I suppose, along those lines, some of us are truly aliens, then.

psichonaut · 29 Mar 2008, 22:41

id not took the tribal topic i just meant that every time i go out, and in my youth i lived out of home months, and when i turn my TV on, there is only violence, abdutions, kills, drugs....i don't know why i have to be surprised

Syberberg · 29 Mar 2008, 22:42

SINsister wrote:I suppose, along those lines, some of us are truly aliens, then.

I see another long chat with you about the reality of being human in the near future.

6FeetOver · 29 Mar 2008, 22:45

psichonaut wrote:...and when i turn my TV on, there is only violence, abdutions, kills, drugs....i don't know why i have to be surprised

So becoming desensitized to atrocities is a good idea, then?

MadameButterfly · 29 Mar 2008, 22:46

I'm sorry to intrude on these thoughts...but I'm not scared..of then of now or of what's to come...if you can find yourself in that frame of mind, you can then understand the meaning of being really.

Set your mind to it and tackle it! It's about how far you will go in your mind's eye or brain. If you believe in something you must be open to all beliefs and if you believe in a soul, if you believe in that, can soar through dimensions within this universe, you should be on your way. If good and evil fight themselves whenever and you as a person can just breathe and hold on for two minutes of thought...what do you do? A ying ~ yang on life or come up for what you believe in?

Me as a person as MB and always being me even if bitchy most times, I must state as mother and of this earth I would kill another human being if I was in danger of if one of my two children were in danger as that goes for my husband too. As it goes for my friends and those I love in this life.

I'm an old skool thinker so as a spiritual pagan being of this earth I do weigh all aspects of life within what's done in the eye, may be judged in this world, as we judge each other everyday and we proclaim we don't but we do as do many things, so if we play open cards in the end...honesty always reigns as does being humble and loving...it vibrates all through the universe and those in need in most lows in life have a vibe that pulls them through...it's not a biblical thing just a reality that not many a voice proclaim.

again *phew*

Yes Sinnie some of us are alien to this planet but it's okay we have the whole universe to feel happy in!

psichonaut · 29 Mar 2008, 22:48

SINsister wrote:
psichonaut wrote:...and when i turn my TV on, there is only violence, abdutions, kills, drugs....i don't know why i have to be surprised
So becoming desensitized to atrocities is a good idea, then?

you lost me, i just said i'm not surprised, not desensitized
i hate violence an dyou know it well, but the crap out of my door is there before my birth and will be there when i'll be dead, i just have to do a "slalom"

psichonaut · 29 Mar 2008, 22:48

double post

6FeetOver · 29 Mar 2008, 22:49

Syberberg wrote:
SINsister wrote:I suppose, along those lines, some of us are truly aliens, then.
I see another long chat with you about the reality of being human in the near future.

You *must* be a masochist, man.

Syberberg · 30 Mar 2008, 01:20

SINsister wrote:
Syberberg wrote:
SINsister wrote:I suppose, along those lines, some of us are truly aliens, then.
I see another long chat with you about the reality of being human in the near future.
You *must* be a masochist, man.

Hey, what can I say, other than you give good mind.