the Doors...
- radiojamaica
- Overbomber
- Posts: 4873
- Joined: 11 Apr 2005, 16:51
- Location: Tower of Bass
Yeah, and I love 'm both
in dub we trust
- MadameButterfly
- HL's mystical safekeeper
- Posts: 6938
- Joined: 12 Jul 2005, 09:29
- Location: in my own galaxy
PM me your address and I'll send you a copy!Chairman Bux wrote:Never heard of them.
it's all about circles and spirals
that ongoing eternity
that ongoing eternity
-
- Black, black, black & even blacker
- Posts: 4964
- Joined: 11 Jul 2002, 01:00
according to an ex- who, as you know, had more Doors stuff than it was safe for anyone to own this was the best_emma_ wrote:I don't remember, sorry, I was 16 or so and smoked a lot of dope back then. I just recall thinking "what a bastard" every couple of pages and being put off the music for months.Hom_Corleone wrote:@Emma - Which biography did you read? There are several - some of which tell a better story than others. The general view was that he was a bit of a drunken changeling. Nice, sensetive guy when sober. Arse when pissed.
Still, these days I'm one of the first people to go to the dancefloor when they get played in a pub.
http://www.amazon.com/One-Here-Gets-Out ... 0446602280
me, i like to think of him as a 'peter pan' character who refused to grow up [not in a physical sense you understand - he managed that rather well ]
...and i loved the idea of his stinky old 'lucky' boots
and 'strange days' is a genius album
Goths have feelings too
- itnAklipse
- Slight Overbomber
- Posts: 1541
- Joined: 09 Jun 2003, 08:12
- Location: set adrift
- Contact:
To me, i haven't heard or read a single thing he said that he wasn't right about. i know what you mean, PIB, about him refusing to grow up...it's very true, refusing to adapt to the garbage of the world, and that is meant when one is accused of not wanting to grow up...but i'm the same as him, in that sense, always been.
i see him very much like Christ - who also refused to grow up. Also there's a lot of Bobby Fischer in him.
And there's just as much pure unadulterated LIES about all of them. Au contraire to what i said originally, i did watch the Doors movie two nights ago, and what a bunch of distortions and lies, all deliberate, it was (Ray Manzarek said sirectly that he looked in the eyes of Oliver Stone and saw that there was just something off there). Just like the churches teach lies, and Kasparov and New in Chess, and the whole chess media, spread terrible lies about Fischer (you know what the expression 'damned by faint praise' means...), some of them deliberately and some just by repeating idiocies that others have invented.
Above all, he was a great human being. And that's the most important thing...saying he was an asshole is just taking some facts and not looking at the context. (And in that regard, ahem, i'd like to point out that people here who think i'm an asshole, do the very same mistake).
i see him very much like Christ - who also refused to grow up. Also there's a lot of Bobby Fischer in him.
And there's just as much pure unadulterated LIES about all of them. Au contraire to what i said originally, i did watch the Doors movie two nights ago, and what a bunch of distortions and lies, all deliberate, it was (Ray Manzarek said sirectly that he looked in the eyes of Oliver Stone and saw that there was just something off there). Just like the churches teach lies, and Kasparov and New in Chess, and the whole chess media, spread terrible lies about Fischer (you know what the expression 'damned by faint praise' means...), some of them deliberately and some just by repeating idiocies that others have invented.
Above all, he was a great human being. And that's the most important thing...saying he was an asshole is just taking some facts and not looking at the context. (And in that regard, ahem, i'd like to point out that people here who think i'm an asshole, do the very same mistake).
we've got beer and we've got fuel
- Pursued By Trees
- Road Kill
- Posts: 79
- Joined: 21 Feb 2008, 17:29
- Location: Lurking in the margins
itnAklipse wrote:... i see him very much like Christ ...
Although on a more serious note I think I maybe get what you mean ... especially in that perhaps Christ wasn't so bad, it's just a lot of the Christians I encounter that tend to put me off taking more of an interest.
I'm headed for the trees over there
If that's not a destination
I don't care
If that's not a destination
I don't care
- markfiend
- goriller of form 3b
- Posts: 21181
- Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
- Location: st custards
- Contact:
To be fair, while I disagree strongly with a lot of your opinions, you rarely fail to be thought-provoking IMO.itnAklipse wrote:Above all, he was a great human being. And that's the most important thing...saying he was an asshole is just taking some facts and not looking at the context. (And in that regard, ahem, i'd like to point out that people here who think i'm an asshole, do the very same mistake).
Is that damning you by faint praise?
Edit to add: Yeah, you can be an arsehole sometimes, but then I can be an arsehole sometimes...
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
- itnAklipse
- Slight Overbomber
- Posts: 1541
- Joined: 09 Jun 2003, 08:12
- Location: set adrift
- Contact:
@Mark: Those are the kindest words i've heard in a long time so i'm not even gonna analyse if it's damning by faint praise And i'm genuinelly glad to hear that.
@Emma: We could, but i'm not sure i understand the merits of 'gentlemen'.
It's a built social structure, all about repression and an artificial code of behaviour, and that's my point about Jimbo. He was against such things, and behaved naturally. And since he said what he felt, did what he felt, everyone thinks he's an asshole. Because he wouldn't play up to people's expectations and fit in to the category they had put him in...that's exactly the point.
@Pursued by Trees: Exactly so! Forgetting so-called (self)-righteous church-going christians, people like David Tibet or Barry McGuire, whom i would consider real Christians, have their own vision of Christ. To them Christ is not an artificially oppressive force whose commands you must follow, but comparable to Tao.
And i've watched quite a few documentaries about Jimbo lately, and they are all filled with obvious lies.
The sad thing is, even his bandmates didn't understand him at all. But the garbage Jeffersons Airplane members said was the worst, along with the producer, paul rothchild.
@Emma: We could, but i'm not sure i understand the merits of 'gentlemen'.
It's a built social structure, all about repression and an artificial code of behaviour, and that's my point about Jimbo. He was against such things, and behaved naturally. And since he said what he felt, did what he felt, everyone thinks he's an asshole. Because he wouldn't play up to people's expectations and fit in to the category they had put him in...that's exactly the point.
@Pursued by Trees: Exactly so! Forgetting so-called (self)-righteous church-going christians, people like David Tibet or Barry McGuire, whom i would consider real Christians, have their own vision of Christ. To them Christ is not an artificially oppressive force whose commands you must follow, but comparable to Tao.
And i've watched quite a few documentaries about Jimbo lately, and they are all filled with obvious lies.
The sad thing is, even his bandmates didn't understand him at all. But the garbage Jeffersons Airplane members said was the worst, along with the producer, paul rothchild.
we've got beer and we've got fuel
- itnAklipse
- Slight Overbomber
- Posts: 1541
- Joined: 09 Jun 2003, 08:12
- Location: set adrift
- Contact:
I was doing time
In the universal mind,
I was feeling fine.
I was turning keys,
I was setting people free,
I was doing alright.
Then you came along,
With a suitcase and a song,
Turned my head around.
Now I'm so alone,
Just looking for a home
In every place I see.
I'm the freedom man,
I'm the freedom man,
I'm the freedom man,
That's how lucky I am.
In the universal mind,
I was feeling fine.
I was turning keys,
I was setting people free,
I was doing alright.
Then you came along,
With a suitcase and a song,
Turned my head around.
Now I'm so alone,
Just looking for a home
In every place I see.
I'm the freedom man,
I'm the freedom man,
I'm the freedom man,
That's how lucky I am.
we've got beer and we've got fuel
- Andy Christ 666
- Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 267
- Joined: 19 Aug 2005, 01:01
- Location: Walsall, West Midlands, England.
- Contact:
The Boors. Absolute pish. Drugged up, hippy rawk pish at that.
Jim Morrison =
In my opinion.
Jim Morrison =
In my opinion.
- James Blast
- Banned
- Posts: 24699
- Joined: 11 Jun 2003, 18:58
- Location: back from some place else
I can go there Andy and may I add: psuedo Native American drug induced 60s bollocks, revolution Mahn! wrapped up in a reasonable drummer, very guid guitar player, stunning front man with a beautiful voice and an absolute wankstain on kybds.
Morrison smells bad, alive and dead but he could hold a crowd and could croon. Imagine how majestic The Doors woulda sounded with Keith Emerson on kybs!
Morrison smells bad, alive and dead but he could hold a crowd and could croon. Imagine how majestic The Doors woulda sounded with Keith Emerson on kybs!
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
~ Peter Steele
- Silver_Owl
- The Don
- Posts: 7498
- Joined: 27 Sep 2003, 18:52
...and what did they say?itnAklipse wrote:But the garbage Jeffersons Airplane members said was the worst, along with the producer, paul rothchild.
I was under the impression Rothchild was one of his true friends
And by the way, for what it's worth (in the main) I agree with Marks comments.
We forgive as we forget
As the day is long.
As the day is long.
- James Blast
- Banned
- Posts: 24699
- Joined: 11 Jun 2003, 18:58
- Location: back from some place else
as one door opens... http://www.planetrock.co.uk/article.asp?id=722212
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
~ Peter Steele
- Silver_Owl
- The Don
- Posts: 7498
- Joined: 27 Sep 2003, 18:52
Should be interesting..well, for me anyway.James Blast wrote:as one door opens... http://www.planetrock.co.uk/article.asp?id=722212
I wonder who's doing the Jim impression now?
We forgive as we forget
As the day is long.
As the day is long.