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The world will end... erhh... any minute now.
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fortunately i have to pay my bills on thursday
thanks...my Lord...i'm unbeliver
tear up your pants for psicho...and jump on him
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So it's time to get galaxically pished and destroyed. Bring on the booze and drugs, because there's no fear of a hangover... anymore!!!
Oh, and, Marco: According to Murphy's law your bills will save us all.Douglas Adams wrote:There's a theory saying that if anyone ever finds out how the world works, it's destroyed and replaced by something much more complicated. There's another theory saying that this has happened many times.
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From elsewhereeotunun wrote:My only concern is: That black hole would be in Switzerland initially. I hope the Switzerians don't mind a couple of billion of visitors in their country.
Jonathon Hemlock wrote:No one really likes Switzerland, except those who prefer cleanliness to life. And anyone who would live in Switzerland would live in Scandinavia. And anyone who would live in Scandinavia would eat lutefisk. And anyone who would eat lutefisk would..."
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eotunun wrote:Oh, and, Marco: According to Murphy's law your bills will save us all.Douglas Adams wrote:There's a theory saying that if anyone ever finds out how the world works, it's destroyed and replaced by something much more complicated. There's another theory saying that this has happened many times.
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tear up your pants for psicho...and jump on him
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Ye dinnae fancy a meal and a bevvy at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe then?Ahráyeph wrote:What I particularly like about this post, Christophe, is your very chipper attitude toward the end of the world; as if you're really looking forward to it...christophe wrote:the world is going to end!
So that's why the black hole will start there: Inside the black hole, there's only mass, energy and angular momentum! That's clean circumstances. I smell a conspiracy..EvilBastard wrote:From elsewhereeotunun wrote:My only concern is: That black hole would be in Switzerland initially. I hope the Switzerians don't mind a couple of billion of visitors in their country.Jonathon Hemlock wrote:No one really likes Switzerland, except those who prefer cleanliness to life. And anyone who would live in Switzerland would live in Scandinavia. And anyone who would live in Scandinavia would eat lutefisk. And anyone who would eat lutefisk would..."
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It's a bugger of a lot of effort to hide some nazi gold though, innit?eotunun wrote:So that's why the black hole will start there: Inside the black hole, there's only mass, energy and angular momentum! That's clean circumstances. I smell a conspiracy..
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Cracks the champagne! Now come here with your drugs!Ahráyeph wrote:So it's time to get galaxically pished and destroyed. Bring on the booze and drugs, because there's no fear of a hangover... anymore!!!
it's all about circles and spirals
that ongoing eternity
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Interesting...
1. Hawking radiation has never actually been proven or seen.
2. One of the reasons for building this thing was to prove the existence of Hawking radiation.
3. General relativity is just "wrong" at the quantum level.
QED: The proposition that this thing is safe because of Hawking radiation and general relativity is a bunch-of-horse-crap.
Personally, I'll be laying money on "still here on Thursday", but the argument for safety is a little dubious.
1. Hawking radiation has never actually been proven or seen.
2. One of the reasons for building this thing was to prove the existence of Hawking radiation.
3. General relativity is just "wrong" at the quantum level.
QED: The proposition that this thing is safe because of Hawking radiation and general relativity is a bunch-of-horse-crap.
Personally, I'll be laying money on "still here on Thursday", but the argument for safety is a little dubious.
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I understood that the safety of this experiment was nothing to do with Hawking radiation: The micro-black-holes that (hypothetically) could be generated are so small that it would take the rest of the life of the universe to even find another subatomic particle to 'eat'.
The gravity of a proton is incredibly weak; the gravity of the whole planet is weak enough for us to escape with our rockets, and it's the equivalent mass to about 36(with 50 zeros after it) protons.
Collisions with roughly the same energy as will happen in the Atlas detector happen hundreds of times a second as cosmic rays hit the atmosphere; none of them have ever created a quantum strangelet or a micro-black-hole that ate the planet.
Finally, the scientists working at CERN are (by and large) people with families, with children. Do you think they would do this if they thought there was the slightest danger?
The gravity of a proton is incredibly weak; the gravity of the whole planet is weak enough for us to escape with our rockets, and it's the equivalent mass to about 36(with 50 zeros after it) protons.
Collisions with roughly the same energy as will happen in the Atlas detector happen hundreds of times a second as cosmic rays hit the atmosphere; none of them have ever created a quantum strangelet or a micro-black-hole that ate the planet.
Finally, the scientists working at CERN are (by and large) people with families, with children. Do you think they would do this if they thought there was the slightest danger?
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Is there an ETA for this as I have a lunch appointment with a cute young woman and i want her to feel the earth move
*I thought the idea was to find the Higgs Bosun (The God Particle) - stephen Hawking has bet £50 they will not find it.
*I thought the idea was to find the Higgs Bosun (The God Particle) - stephen Hawking has bet £50 they will not find it.
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Wikipedia wrote:the first attempt to circulate a beam through the entire LHC is scheduled for September 10, 2008, and the first high-energy collisions are planned to take place after the LHC is officially unveiled, on October 21, 2008.
So it's already switched on.Wikipedia wrote:the first attempt to circulate a beam through the entire LHC, an event which will be webcast, is scheduled for 10 September 2008 at 7:00 UTC.
*Edit: but the particle collisions don't start for another 6 weeks.
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The link in the first post contained the quoteI understood that the safety of this experiment was nothing to do with Hawking radiation
" they [mini black holes] would vanish almost instantaneously -- a phenomenon known as Hawking radiation. Anyone who says otherwise, KET says, doesn't completely get Albert Einstein's General Theory of Relativity."
I have absolutely no doubt that these experiements are safe, was just pointing out the above argument is tosh. A case of bad journalism if you ask me, since no physicist would be quoting general relativity at such small scales. (Hawking radiation contradicts general relativity anyway).
Personally, if they do manage to create a mini-black hole, I'm expecting a bunch of daleks to jump through the void...
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Ah rightyho. I don't think I actually read the original linky. My bad.
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Your ARSE is a mini black hole?