Body Politic

THE place for your Sisters-related comments, questions and snippets of Sisters information. For those who do not know, The Sisters of Mercy are a rock'n'roll band. And a pop band. And an industrial groove machine. Or so they say. They make records. Lots of records, apparently. But not in your galaxy. They play concerts. Lots of concerts, actually. But you still cannot see them. So what's it all about, Alfie? This is one of the few tightly-moderated forums on Heartland, so please keep on-topic. All off-topic posts will either be moved or deleted. Chairman Bux is the editor and the editor's decision is final. Danke.
Post Reply
abridged
Slight Overbomber
Posts: 1431
Joined: 08 Sep 2008, 10:27
Location: Derry
Contact:

It occurred to me that the Sisters (in whatever) carnation were one of the finist political bands ever. From The Reptile House to Vision Thing Eldritch comments on the contemporary with wit and accuracy. I think sometimes this is forgotten in discussions. Valentine, Dr Jeep etc is as relevent as ever. Beats Mr Bragg et al at any rate!
The Chancer Corporation
User avatar
sultan2075
Overbomber
Posts: 2379
Joined: 04 Mar 2005, 19:17
Location: Washington, D. C.
Contact:

I'm pretty sure Valentine is about vampires. And Dr. Jeep is also about vampires, but this time they're robotic vampires that hang out at the Sheraton.
--
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
abridged
Slight Overbomber
Posts: 1431
Joined: 08 Sep 2008, 10:27
Location: Derry
Contact:

Once read, I think in one of Mick Mercer's books, of someone thinking Floorshow was about covens...
The Chancer Corporation
User avatar
markfiend
goriller of form 3b
Posts: 21181
Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
Location: st custards
Contact:

Robot vampires from outer space.

With laser beams.
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
User avatar
mh
Above the Chemist
Posts: 8124
Joined: 23 Jun 2003, 14:41
Location: A city built on rock 'n' roll

Pfffft.

It's all Roadrunner cartoons! ;D

<---------------
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
User avatar
markfiend
goriller of form 3b
Posts: 21181
Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
Location: st custards
Contact:

Robot vampire roadrunner cartoons?
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
User avatar
mh
Above the Chemist
Posts: 8124
Joined: 23 Jun 2003, 14:41
Location: A city built on rock 'n' roll

From outer space. With lasers.

Glad we got that one sorted.
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
User avatar
Quiff Boy
Herr Administrator
Posts: 16795
Joined: 25 Jan 2002, 00:00
Location: Lurking and fixing
Contact:

cool :o

can i buy that on ebay?
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?
abridged
Slight Overbomber
Posts: 1431
Joined: 08 Sep 2008, 10:27
Location: Derry
Contact:

Spiggy the Vampire Killer? Ahem.
The Chancer Corporation
Dark
Underneath the Rock
Posts: 6605
Joined: 27 Oct 2004, 21:26
Location: People's Republic of Glasgow
Contact:

I have heard far more political bands than the Sisters. They're okay, people, not the best at everything. :|

Christ, it's as bad as people claiming the Beatles invented heavy metal.. :roll:
User avatar
stufarq
Popweazle Piddlepoop
Posts: 3209
Joined: 19 Jan 2008, 17:09
Location: my own imagination

This is, without shadow* of a doubt, the finest thread on the entire forum.

*Back to vampires again
Any more of that and we'll be round your front door with the quick-setting whitewash and the shaved monkey.
Bartek
Underneath the Rock
Posts: 6141
Joined: 17 Sep 2005, 10:47

Dark wrote:I have heard far more political bands than the Sisters. They're okay, people, not the best at everything. :|

Christ, it's as bad as people claiming the Beatles invented heavy metal.. :roll:
like RATM or Serj Taknian and s.o.a.d.

the Beatles really invented heavy metal
User avatar
mh
Above the Chemist
Posts: 8124
Joined: 23 Jun 2003, 14:41
Location: A city built on rock 'n' roll

Quiff Boy wrote:cool :o

can i buy that on ebay?
Lesbian stripper ninja twin sister robot vampire roadrunner cartoons from outer space with lasers?

I'll buy 20! ;D
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
User avatar
Qarly
Road Kill
Posts: 22
Joined: 26 Nov 2008, 05:36
Location: Kelowna, BC

I would like to one day find out that every Sisters song is really about waffles. Or alternately, marmalade.
"Since my earliest childhood a barb of sorrow has lodged in my heart. As long as it stays I am ironic
-- if it is pulled out I shall die."
abridged
Slight Overbomber
Posts: 1431
Joined: 08 Sep 2008, 10:27
Location: Derry
Contact:

Ah What I was originally getting at, probably quite clumsily, was that in the midst of the arguments over the g-word and the like, the fact that Eldritch was essentially very political in his writing got overlooked mostly be lazy jpurnalists and sometimes fans. I remember seeing someone, at Wembley I think dragging a home-made coffin around. Everyone is allowed their own interpretation of course but some are just wrong. Yeah there are far more overtly political bands but generally they preach in a hectoring and incredibly dull manner. Ah, the Beatles invented bad haircuts.
The Chancer Corporation
User avatar
Izzy HaveMercy
The Worlds Greatest Living Belgian
Posts: 8844
Joined: 29 Jan 2002, 00:00
Location: Long Dark Forties
Contact:

abridged wrote:Ah What I was originally getting at, probably quite clumsily, was that in the midst of the arguments over the g-word and the like, the fact that Eldritch was essentially very political in his writing got overlooked mostly be lazy jpurnalists and sometimes fans. I remember seeing someone, at Wembley I think dragging a home-made coffin around. Everyone is allowed their own interpretation of course but some are just wrong. Yeah there are far more overtly political bands but generally they preach in a hectoring and incredibly dull manner. Ah, the Beatles invented bad haircuts.
Seeing the prices at Wembley for an overnight stay, I can't really blame someone to drag along his own accomodations...

japanese lesbian schoolgirl vampires with gatling guns for me please, takeaway

IZ.
.
.
For Greater Good - Ambient Music for the Masses...
.
.
ZacheryAllanStarkey
Road Kill
Posts: 11
Joined: 20 Nov 2008, 06:24
Location: Ohio
Contact:

I believe that Dominion/Mother Russia is one of the finest political songs ever written. The lyrics are incredibly dense, complicated, creative, and work on many different levels. I remember the first time I heard the song, I was blown away. I had to spend a good amount of time analyzing the lyrics. Its one of the finest comments on relations between Europe and the US.

I think Vision Thing is one of the best tunes ever written about George Bush 1. I remember Bush 1's presidency well, and the song Vision Thing captures how myself and other felt about him.

I always say the the intelligent, acute, and political nature of Eldritch's lyrics are exactly what seperates the Sisters of Mercy from being a crap Goth and and puts them in the same league with fine post punk bands such as New Order, the Smiths, Talking Heads, REM, Public Image Ltd., ect.
User avatar
stufarq
Popweazle Piddlepoop
Posts: 3209
Joined: 19 Jan 2008, 17:09
Location: my own imagination

And I believe that Burn is one of the finest songs ever written about waffles and marmalade.

But, to be fair, only two people have actually posted sensible replies to the original question. So yes, absolutely, at least in terms of general, non-partisan commentary. A lot of others are far more political but sometimes you wish they weren't.
Any more of that and we'll be round your front door with the quick-setting whitewash and the shaved monkey.
User avatar
nodubmanshouts
Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 557
Joined: 19 Oct 2003, 06:50
Location: California

Sisters lyrics are easily compartmentalized:


Reptile House - all about Thatcherite Britain, speed, and his mummy.

FALAA - all about his mummy, speed and sex.

Floodland - all about the cold war, his mummy, sex, and Wayne.

Vision Thing - all about America, sex, mummy, and speed.

Everything else - all about speed, speed, more speed.... but above all... its about speed.



Compare and contrast with the m*****n:

Almost everything ever written - about sex.

What wasn't about sex - About Andrew.
User avatar
sultan2075
Overbomber
Posts: 2379
Joined: 04 Mar 2005, 19:17
Location: Washington, D. C.
Contact:

He's got a mummy? Oh my word he is so goth. A vampire who owns a mummy! And sings songs about robotic space vampires.

He's even more frightening than Carl McCoy and Glenn Danzig combined!
--
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
User avatar
silentNate
Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 824
Joined: 11 Jul 2007, 07:48
Location: Stars Hollow

Qarly wrote:I would like to one day find out that every Sisters song is really about waffles. Or alternately, marmalade.
Isn't I Was Wrong about finding that your cheese on toast has a later of Marmite underneath? :?

I don't wanna talk this over
I don't wanna talk it out
I was quite impressed until I hit the floor
Isn't that what friends are for?
Pain looks great on other people
That's what they're for

;D
I had a face on the mirror
I had a hand on the gun
I had a place in the sun and a ticket to Syria
User avatar
6FeetOver
Childlike Empress
Posts: 7683
Joined: 25 Jan 2002, 00:00
Location: way on down south, New London town...
Contact:

stufarq wrote:And I believe that Burn is one of the finest songs ever written about waffles and marmalade.
No, that one's about toast, obviously. Silly man. :roll: :P
I left my heart in Ballycastle... :cry: :cry: :cry:
User avatar
randdebiel²
Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 860
Joined: 08 Jul 2003, 09:14
Location: Brussels

Quiff Boy wrote:cool :o

can i buy that on ebay?
sounds more like thinkgeek stuff
shiny, shiny, shiny boots of leather....
User avatar
stufarq
Popweazle Piddlepoop
Posts: 3209
Joined: 19 Jan 2008, 17:09
Location: my own imagination

SINsister wrote:
stufarq wrote:And I believe that Burn is one of the finest songs ever written about waffles and marmalade.
No, that one's about toast, obviously. Silly man. :roll: :P
I think you'll find that waffles can be burned too. I have conducted many experiments to prove the case.
DancingtheGhost
Road Kill
Posts: 73
Joined: 20 Apr 2008, 22:40
Location: Dark Paradise

Have to agree with nodubmanshouts on this one. Think he(or she) sums it up pretty well. Though some of the new songs are probably about sex, also. :lol:
I bled all I can, I won't bleed no more
Post Reply