Chinese Democracy IS a total masterpiece.
And i'm not at all sorry it's TOO GOOD for most people to appreciate.
Don't believe what you read.
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after listening on myspace can say one word : rubbish
Not only do I refuse to believe in what I read, I even don't trust in what I write! Or think. That's the most dangerous of delusions: Your own thoughts! 
As for Axel Rose, that bloke sounds like a castrate with chronical polyps up his nose. I need a nail in the head to get able to listen to his singing for more than two minutes without developing the urge to kill someone.
Preferably him. (No pun intended, but not quite as wrong.)
As for Axel Rose, that bloke sounds like a castrate with chronical polyps up his nose. I need a nail in the head to get able to listen to his singing for more than two minutes without developing the urge to kill someone.
Preferably him. (No pun intended, but not quite as wrong.)
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" i don't necessarily agree with everything i think"eotunun wrote:Not only do I refuse to believe in what I read, I even don't trust in what I write! Or think. That's the most dangerous of delusions: Your own thoughts!
As for Axel Rose, that bloke sounds like a castrate with chronical polyps up his nose. I need a nail in the head to get able to listen to his singing for more than two minutes without developing the urge to kill someone.
Preferably him. (No pun intended, but not quite as wrong.)
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i don't stand by anything i've said in the past"
and i agree with that.
I can't read, so no probs here.
Okay Dei: After you recommended that album as much I got curious and gave it a spin. Yep, it's very Groins N Sores. Axel still can't sing and rather sounds like Gollum's Emo-half on helium, exposing his love for audio-kitsch unashamedly in generic rock tunes with generic guitar solos whenever they don't fit the dramaturgy of the tune, sitting there like squeaking parrots amongst rockers. Much like a parable on their maker, actually.
The tunes themselves aren't all uninteresting to me, the perfection of the musicians playing shines through. Still the result is nothing special to me. It's another G'N'R-Album. We've heard it before, even if we never listened to it.
My opinion. You deserved a detailed reply.
Now don't let my view spoil yours and enjoy.
You will anyway.
The tunes themselves aren't all uninteresting to me, the perfection of the musicians playing shines through. Still the result is nothing special to me. It's another G'N'R-Album. We've heard it before, even if we never listened to it.
My opinion. You deserved a detailed reply.
Now don't let my view spoil yours and enjoy.
You will anyway.
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Heh, nice one.eotunun wrote:We've heard it before, even if we never listened to it.
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In keeping with the title of the thread, I read this and didn't believe it.itnAklipse wrote:Chinese Democracy IS a total masterpiece.
And i'm not at all sorry it's TOO GOOD for most people to appreciate.
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Well I quite like it.
I've had most of the tracks a little while now, courtesy of the internet leak, and its a definite grower. A few cheesy tracks on there, but thats what God created 'next track' buttons for....
It just Doesnt sound like a band anymore though - more of a grand production - but given the number of people that actually play on the album thats not surprising!
but it is what it is - and people will love it or hate it (and many will decide without even listening to it....)
I've had most of the tracks a little while now, courtesy of the internet leak, and its a definite grower. A few cheesy tracks on there, but thats what God created 'next track' buttons for....
It just Doesnt sound like a band anymore though - more of a grand production - but given the number of people that actually play on the album thats not surprising!
but it is what it is - and people will love it or hate it (and many will decide without even listening to it....)
I hear her cry all day, all night
I hear her voice from deep within the wall
Made a cross from knitting needles
Made a grave from hoover bags
Especially for the woman in the wall
I hear her voice from deep within the wall
Made a cross from knitting needles
Made a grave from hoover bags
Especially for the woman in the wall
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..and credit where credit is due - at least Axl has given the fans a new record at last! 
I hear her cry all day, all night
I hear her voice from deep within the wall
Made a cross from knitting needles
Made a grave from hoover bags
Especially for the woman in the wall
I hear her voice from deep within the wall
Made a cross from knitting needles
Made a grave from hoover bags
Especially for the woman in the wall
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15 years to create a polished turd really isn't much of an achievement, though. At least when certain other bands have buggered off for a couple of years, what they come back with is worth listening (no matter what Keef says about Vision Thing).SomeKindOfStranger wrote:..and credit where credit is due - at least Axl has given the fans a new record at last!
Mind you, Hawkwind puts out new stuff more often than I change my shreddies, and their stuff is consistently good. I suppose the problem is that having waited this long, fan expectation is bound to be high. I used to like GnR in my yoof (Lies, Appetite) but lost interest by the time Illusion was released - by this point I really couldn't have cared what the new album sounded like, I had a listen and thought "Naah, grown out of this. Put on Lost Patrol again."
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it got up the noses of the chinese so well done to mr oral sex.
D´uh. The penny finally dropped.EvilBastard wrote:In keeping with the title of the thread, I read this and didn't believe it.itnAklipse wrote:Chinese Democracy IS a total masterpiece.
And i'm not at all sorry it's TOO GOOD for most people to appreciate.
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@EvilBastard nice one buddy your wit has brightened my day
Oh eotunun (i've never heard the word outside work)
I have to applaud the ejacultion from Gollum's Cock, one in the eye for any GnR fan...
that'd leave 'em speechless, yes it would, shut up
@SomeKindOfStranger I guess your jaded irony is driven by the idea that some artists should record and produce more material, make the modern sound more commercially available? These artists may be performing something more than sound, maybe their thing is about stuff you can't fit onto a disc?
I like supporting a band that don't make records
Oh eotunun
your soooooo avant-gardethey don't fit the dramaturgy of the tune
(i've never heard the word outside work)I have to applaud the ejacultion from Gollum's Cock, one in the eye for any GnR fan...
that'd leave 'em speechless, yes it would, shut up
@SomeKindOfStranger I guess your jaded irony is driven by the idea that some artists should record and produce more material, make the modern sound more commercially available? These artists may be performing something more than sound, maybe their thing is about stuff you can't fit onto a disc?
I like supporting a band that don't make records
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Imagine the following scene: Somewhere in Germany a native german speaker sits there, struggling with his thin english vocabulary, chewing on the words, trying to put his obscure ideas into them. Unable to find a better way to put it, he uses a word he himself finds not matching. But then: Who's perfect? -Fire away. So you found a silly expression? Keep it, it's yours!darkparticle wrote:Oh eotununyour soooooo avant-gardethey don't fit the dramaturgy of the tune
You are totally right, though. It's a mindbogglingly stupid way of putting it.
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Puts in a quick phone call to Eldritch Boulevard 1212 to beg them please, please hold off on the release until Dec.26Gollum's Cock wrote:If The Sisters release a new album before Christmas I'll blow everybody on this forum.
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Guts 'n' cirrhosis, metalifags, lots of cheap ass crap hitting our ears.enough of this noise. Arrrrh
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I would describe chinese democracy as a flawed masterpiece, axl has still got it, his voice is fantasic on the album, and some of his melodies are classic. a bit too many fiddly guitars, but not enough to annoy.
axl has a love it or hate it voice, same with eldritch....quite how a fan of eldritch could complain that axl cant sing is beyond me though
axl has a love it or hate it voice, same with eldritch....quite how a fan of eldritch could complain that axl cant sing is beyond me though
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It's quite an impressive feat, really: Axl has made a record that I find simultaneously interesting and boring.
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That's because, while Eldritch doesn't always hit the right note (live), he's got a pleasant voice, while Mr Rose sounds like a wrung-out Chinchilla with diarrhea.Nazareth wrote:axl has a love it or hate it voice, same with eldritch....quite how a fan of eldritch could complain that axl cant sing is beyond me though
After some interesting experiences bordom has a distinct charme to it, yes..sultan2075 wrote:It's quite an impressive feat, really: Axl has made a record that I find simultaneously interesting and boring.
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