That comaprison you make there actually has some weight, I guess.nowayjose wrote:A number of Palestinian Arabs have been removed from their land and relocated. That wasn't legitimate, I think most can agree. However. Events like that have happened all the time during the history of mankind and people generally have adapted. A civilized solution could be, for example, financial recompensation for lost property and human loss. I have never heard of a Sudeten-German suicide bomber exploding his rucksack in a Prague café and I think I never will. It's a matter of dignity and education. The Palestinians are kept poor, uneducated and indoctrinated, and are tools for demagogues like Hamas and formerly the PLO; while those organizations themselves are used by Arab and the Iranian regimes as a lightning rod to distract from their own oppressive politics, poverty and corruption.psichonaut wrote:it's not a quetion of numbers....but of freedom.
since th Jews started to arrive in Palastine the stopped to be free
that's all
Having grown up and living in Germany, I know more than enough people who were driven from their homes by WW II.
I was friends with an old lady from the neighbourhood who was born in Danzig and who was in the trecks from former eastern Germany to the safer places. As a four year old she saw the bits of refugees who were torn by grenades, bombs or fighter bomber bullets flying around. One of my own aunts hid under stacks of boddies to escape not so friendly soldiers who were out to kill everyone they found, civilian or soldier, on her way from Silesia.
I count that aunt as a rather radical christian today, yet a one who'd never even think of going to kill a Russian for what some of theirs did to her and the people arond. Like so many Russians who are friendly with us Germans today after having seen what Hitlers troops did in Russia.
That probably is the result of these people not being as doctrined as the Palestinians, or, as Sultan said, having lived in more libertarian environments they simply had a more neutral view on the terrors they experienced.
Still there probably were even greater numbers of these European refugee stories than all Arabians can get together, not only Palestinians, , but no suicide bombers.
Let's not even mention the Polish who were pushed around several times by Russians and Germans.
..or all those other storries history knows. Only Palestinians don't seem to get over it. Many of them were living in Israel, sharing its wealth and having their chances and jewish friends. Then came Jihad.
That bit about the education: I often wonder why there are so very few Arabs that make themselves a name in science. The whole of Arabia is like a big hole in the map of today's sciences. Why is that so? Arabia used to have such a great tradition there, once upon, a long ago.psichonaut wrote:i agree for most of your thought, but i'd add Jews too keep Palestinians poor, ineducated, isolated, oppressed and without any kind of human dignity.
It seems to me that non-religious education is what Arabs are not too strong at anymore. I wonder what will happen to Saudi Arabia when the oil wells run dry. Will their money suffice to make a future on? See the decay of Germany's ecconomy as example of what happens to a former strong country that doesn take care of providing its people good education. (Yepp, latest studdies showed some improvement, but throughout the recent fifteen years there were alarming results brought up by studdies saying that german education was rather weak, and getting worse. A tipp to you all: Never buy the wreck of a socialistic country, it'll ruin you.
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