And yet cigarettes still stink.Hom_Corleone wrote: My point wasn't aimed at you particularly - it's just we've been over this tiresome subject over and over again.
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And yet cigarettes still stink.Hom_Corleone wrote: My point wasn't aimed at you particularly - it's just we've been over this tiresome subject over and over again.
But do they? Do they really?Badlander wrote:And yet cigarettes still stink.Hom_Corleone wrote: My point wasn't aimed at you particularly - it's just we've been over this tiresome subject over and over again.
Then please point me to the relevant threads, so I can spare you more boredom!Hom_Corleone wrote: I'll post what I want, where I want - but thanks for your comments.![]()
My point wasn't aimed at you particularly - it's just we've been over this tiresome subject over and over again.
YawnYggdrasil wrote:Then please point me to the relevant threads, so I can spare you more boredom!Hom_Corleone wrote: I'll post what I want, where I want - but thanks for your comments.![]()
My point wasn't aimed at you particularly - it's just we've been over this tiresome subject over and over again.Like I said at the beginning of my post, I'm sure that you have been going over this many times, I just couldn't find where.
that's interesting.Yggdrasil wrote:I just can't buy the argument that they're not releasing new material just because "there is no point because of greedy record company executives", as was stated in an interview this summer. I suspect that there might also be residual contractual reasons, despite Von claiming that the contract with East/West is terminated.
It's not all that unusual. Many artists find themselves contractually bound for many years, even though they try to cancel the contracts, and they can't even perform live without record company consent, much less record. That's one of the main reasons people record under other names or anonymously, something which I know Eldritch has been known to do. He is also very, very bitter towards the record company, and doesn't seem to even want to discuss releasing any new material.skeletal remains wrote: a friend of mine who worked for sanctuary records a few years ago told me a similar story. as some of you may know, andrew was in talk with some labels (sanctuary, roadrunner, mute), but nothing worked out.
i wouldn't totally doubt that there are actually other reasons for not releasing new material than the ones we know or think to know.
Exactly. As someone who has - albeit not here - a little patience with those who haven't, maybe?I haven't been over this tiresome subject before
Has anyone actually asked Eldritch (or Pearson) a direct question about this?euphoria wrote:I have seen this topic before, but it's not tiresome at all so please continue discussing!
Somewhat linked to the Adam Pearson Interview topic, because he could probably give some answers that would make some issues clearer.
I totally agree, though I really would like to see a new album.nodubmanshouts wrote: He has enough money, he can still do gigs and he's still a legend. The only thing releasing a new record will do is damage #3.
The "new" material has long since progressed past Vision Thing.nightmusic wrote:Another point I've not seen raised, is what would it sound like - i.e. the first three albums all have a different sound, it would be a shame if it sounded like the last one, after long 18 years. Not that I dislike VT but you'd expect some sort of progression?
It's my job to keep an eye on you all.7anthea7 wrote:If the thread bores anyone, no one says they have to continue to read it...and the fact that some do keep coming back afterwards says something right there![]()
I beg to differ. I truly love We are the same, Susanne, Summer, War on drugs, Crash & burn... Deal with it.Caravaggio wrote: And (to be honest): how many really good songs did they do in the last 15 years? I don't think it's enough for a longplayer
These are the songs you know about, not the songs that exist.il duce wrote:1. They do not have enough material. I mean seriously the band writes a song every second year, and most "new" songs right now are 10 years old.
All crap... IMHOSusanne, Summer, War on drugs, Crash & burn
Also, one of the points I'm making with my "legal obstacles argument" is that there is very little incentive to release (or even arrange/finish) songs that the band have no way of (legally) releasing.Badlander wrote:These are the songs you know about, not the songs that exist.il duce wrote:1. They do not have enough material. I mean seriously the band writes a song every second year, and most "new" songs right now are 10 years old.
The fact that the record business has been transformed is an advantage to the band, not the other way around. They can (could have?) make records at a much lower cost, and most importantly, they wouldn't have to give 98% of what they earned to a record company, they could keep most of the money themselves and hence wouldn't have to sell as many copies to get the same net result.il duce wrote:
3. It would not sell s**t! I mean we would all buy it, but how many are we? They are not even selling out the clubs they are playing anymore.
4. The window has past. This sucks but I think it is true, the album should have come at the end of the nineties, that was the window. Now it is too late. The recordbuisness is shot dead, the fans are gone and Von has lost interest.