In defence of the Golden Arches

RicheyJames · 22 Oct 2003, 22:31

Major de Coverly wrote:...you should eat breakfast like a king...

if only one had the time of a morning, if only....

moonchild · 22 Oct 2003, 23:05

Major de Coverly wrote: People who knock it are whinging, small minded, ill-informed trippy hippy idealists who have no ability to think rationally or logically, who's only contribution in life is observing what is wrong. That'll be the frogs then.

People that eat this thing that is call food can have obesity, heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure and elevated cholesterol. While a McDonald's nutritional booklet claims the fish in a Filet-O-Fish is "100 percent cod with a pinch of salt to taste after cooking," the list of ingredients for the sandwich includes modified corn starch, dextrose, cellulose gum, citric acid and an anti-foaming agent called dimethylpolysiloxane.

I don't like capitalism and i don't like mcdonald's and i don't like american politics. And i think that you have no right to call all that you called to people that has different opinion of you.
And no, i don't see only wrong cause this world is all wrong.

CellThree · 22 Oct 2003, 23:11

Still can't beat a Big Mac. Doesn't taste like anyone elses burger. Doesn't really taste like a burger to be honest, but it is still ace.

Subway are great. There was one in town here, apart from it closed down about 2 weeks before I came back from Canada. That sucked. There is another Sandwich chain in Canada that is better than Subway, the name escapes me though.

Also, I miss Tim Hortons for coffee in the morning. Beats the hell out of that muck that Starbucks serve.

RicheyJames · 22 Oct 2003, 23:13

moonchild wrote:I don't like capitalism...

your alternative being...?

Andy TG · 22 Oct 2003, 23:40

I would like to add my own "2 Penneths" on the subject of McDonalds and other "fast food" producers

Just over 5 weeks ago I quit "smoking" for good - I dont even miss it now - thanks to will power and patches.

Prior to quitting I would "Crave" a McD/BK etc quite often and since I quit I now find the idea of a "Big Mac" (tm) quite a turn off. Mrs Goth, who also quit at the same time feels the same way as it turns out. IMHO there are ingredients in McDs (and other "fast food) that make the food "addictive" in the same way that smoking is addictive. This has been proved to myself at the very least!

Many months ago McDonalds introduced a 99p menu - something they said was "long term" - and is slowly being removed. On the introduction of this menu they were selling a Chicken Mayo burger - these were very very nice IMHO - with added cheese and lettuce. These proved very popular, but were losing the company money so they dropped them from the range.

Recently McD's have have tried to appear more "caring" - introducing "Pasta Salad" "Organic" milk - "Fruit" for the kiddies "theme" coffees All Day etc. They are obviously feeling that "customers" are turning against them as they are known to produce "crap" food and their adverts are making them "unpopular"

You may be interested to know that the 3rd quarter profits for 2002 for McD showed a "Loss" - the first time this had happened in their 50 year history. As an aside - BKs profits rose as consumers prefer to may more for better food, and McD's are losing out. McDs are also now considering closing some stores as they are not making any money.

I stated in another thread that, given the choice a "Miss Millies" is what I prefer - a cheaper, better value and tastier KFC and KFC is my second choice.

Lets not forget that McDs (and all the others) only interest is parting YOU from your MONEY - thats the only real reason why they exist.

BTW - Since quitting the "ciggys" I still find myself "addicted" to Diet Coke - most likely due to the Aspartame content - which can be traced in many "fast foods" and nearly ALL soft drinks found in the UK!

Rant Over !

Andy TG · 22 Oct 2003, 23:43

RicheyJames wrote:
moonchild wrote:I don't like capitalism...
your alternative being...?

Communism

or perhaps

Buddism

hallucienate · 23 Oct 2003, 08:37

On the subject of McDs closing: we had 10 of the 114 McDs in South Africa close earlier this year. I can't say I felt to bad about it.

23 Oct 2003, 09:33

AndyTheGoth wrote:
RicheyJames wrote:
moonchild wrote:I don't like capitalism...
your alternative being...?
Communism

or perhaps

Buddism

i usually go with a heady blend of humanity, compassion for other living beings, and good old common sense...

RicheyJames · 23 Oct 2003, 09:59

all well and good quiffy but how are you going to turn your labour into essentials like food in this new utopia?

Thrash Harry · 23 Oct 2003, 10:01

DomConway wrote:BK beats McD's any day in my book...

I concur with my learned friend.

ryan · 23 Oct 2003, 10:07

burger king is called hungry jacks over here

why? i dont know- i think its stupid

i hate mcdonalds- ive never eaten a big mac without all this lettuce juping all over me. The chips taste like pure sodium and its more like 'ice with coke' than coke with ice.

bastards

ryan · 23 Oct 2003, 10:17

really? thanks for that- i thought that they were trying to make an american company somehow sound more australian

obviously not

moonchild · 23 Oct 2003, 10:54

RicheyJames wrote:
your alternative being...?

Profit-sharing systems, capitalism combined with some central planning, worker-owned firms in a market economy into a centrally planned economy, as has occurred recently in Hungary. Like you can read in the book Alternatives to Capitalism by Elster, Jon, Moene, Karl Ove.

Now, the world is in a huge crisis thanks to the Bush Administration's war against Iraq that not only exposed the inhumanity of war, but also the inhumanity of the entire social, political and economic system upon which the world is based.

moonchild · 23 Oct 2003, 10:55

AndyTheGoth wrote:
Communism

or perhaps

Buddism

Anti-capitalism isn't Communism or Marxism -- the last communist nations on earth practice capitalism today.Â It isn't anarchism -- it says nothing about government or freedom. It isn't nihilism -- it's about improvement and change, not total destruction.Â Â

Anti-capitalism isn't Socialism either -- it involves the elimination of capitalized wealth not wealth redistribution. More specifically, Anti-capitalism is about eliminating the profit motive as the icon of the world economic order.

But Buddism is a great alternative.

23 Oct 2003, 11:02

politics is circular by nature. you can go so far left that you end up coming back around on yourself from the right. and vica versa. the only true way is to ignore the ever-circling Politicians and get out of the common political loop, and "go your own way", as the godlike genius of fleetwood mac would say.

religion is similar in that the best way to be "a good human being" is to ignore the teachings and rantings of the church(es) and other organised religions - they are all too entrenched in their own dogma and supporting and perpetuating their own existance as an organisation. find your own "path" based on what you feel to be right. whatever deity/deities you believe in will judge you accordingly.

'twas ever thus.

23 Oct 2003, 11:21

Snub Nose wrote:lovely quiff.

couldn't have put it better. (seriously)

here endeth the quiff lesson.

danke

philip pullman has some interesting stuff to say on this too

http://www.darkmaterials.com/pull3.htm

and i notice that this interview with pullman mentions "The Master and Margarita"

Major de Coverly · 23 Oct 2003, 12:45

There is both a McDs and American diner not two minutes walk from Patriach's pond, which is where the devil first pops up in the Master etc.

As I said before, I'm not commenting on all this anti- McD mumbo jumbo. I've said my bit. I'm right, and all of you who disagree with me are wrong.

Reasoned debate can only get you so far, but when it challenges the three pillars of ordered, capitalist society: uncle sam, big blue, and the golden arches, then it must stop and you must all be conscipted into the army and sent to fight a war you don't believe in until you toughen up. I will mind the ranch from back here, sipping a strawb milkshake.

moonchild · 23 Oct 2003, 12:47

Major de Coverly wrote:
I'm right, and all of you who disagree with me are wrong.

That is a joke, right? I'll take that as a joke.

Major de Coverly · 23 Oct 2003, 12:56

Nope, sorry. No joke intended. OK, there's a bit of exaggeration here and there, and it might be written a bit abruptly to emphasise the odd point, but I really have given your name, moonchild, to my friend the Commander-in-Chief of the United Nations peace keeping force for Iraq. Next time your door bell rings, I expect it will be him. You should have a nice time: The C-in-C is a nice guy- we had some crazy times out in the Crimea together- and there are no McDs out there.

RicheyJames · 23 Oct 2003, 13:13

good work major. it's about time these namby-pamby, molly-coddled, bleeding-heart liberals had a dose of conscription.

although bk is still superior to mcd's

Major de Coverly · 23 Oct 2003, 13:28

Fair enuff. Watch it tho'. Praise does not become you.

moonchild · 23 Oct 2003, 14:42

Major de Coverly wrote:Nope, sorry. No joke intended. OK, there's a bit of exaggeration here and there, and it might be written a bit abruptly to emphasise the odd point, but I really have given your name, moonchild, to my friend the Commander-in-Chief of the United Nations peace keeping force for Iraq. Next time your door bell rings, I expect it will be him. You should have a nice time: The C-in-C is a nice guy- we had some crazy times out in the Crimea together- and there are no McDs out there.

You are very rude and you don't respect my opinion.

Mrs RicheyJames · 23 Oct 2003, 14:47

All together now..........

A pizza hut, A pizza hut, Kentucky fried chicken and a pizza hut,
A pizza hut, a pizza hut, Kentucky fried chicken and a pizza hut
McDonalds, McDonalds,
Kentucky fried chicked and a pizza hut,
McDonalds, McDonalds,
Kentucky fried chicken and a pizza hut!!

RicheyJames · 23 Oct 2003, 14:48

what the f**k are you on?

and can i have some?

Mrs RicheyJames · 23 Oct 2003, 14:50

You never heard the tune?