Kill Or Be Cured?

eastmidswhizzkid · 07 Mar 2009, 14:55

**this thread was called kill or cure but i can't get round the filter that changes the name to fat bob and co.**

ok so there are many people here who love the cure more than their own livers and unlike myself listen to and enjoy all the different periods of their music (personally it's all about 17 seconds, faith and pornography. and the subway song.) but having seen them on johnathan ross's show playing yet another insipid whimsy pop song am i the only one who misses teh intensity of tracks like one hundred years etc,? where are those ramblingly simple guitar solos and tribal/mechanical (sounding) drums? should they give it up now?

Erudite · 07 Mar 2009, 15:13

I must confess that I lost interest in them some years back.
But I'm sure a lot of people say the same thing about the Sisters.
As long as they've got an audience and enjoy making records, I don't see any reason for them not to carry on. Never having been a massive fan (I liked them well eough at one point and acknowledge they've produced some damn fine records) it doesn't put me up nor down.

On a more selfish note - I'd far rather my taxes were spent on something other than providing Fat Bob with a giro.

weebleswobble · 07 Mar 2009, 15:14

You do realise that Pista will now have to kill you

I wish they'd stopped before about 3 albums ago. Musically while some of the new stuff has its moments as a whole it is sorely lacking. Even the production as been awful as well.

As for the band itself, well I'll never forgive Bob for getting rid of Roger O'Donnell. f**k his bared down sound, its The Cure (thank you QB) not The Jam!
Apart from Simon (who appears to be getting younger) they are an advert for no.stage.lighting.

Bob looks like Liz Tayor the morning after and Porl is WTF

But they can still pull them in and according to The NME

are responsible for 83% of all new music, so obviously they are doing something right, right?

Anyhoo I'm going to lock all my doors now as I may be getting a visit from a mad Hungary based Englishman.

Purple Light · 07 Mar 2009, 15:25

I saw that Jonathan Ross performance & I don't think I've ever heard such a crap effortless pile of b*llocks of a song (by a band who can do so much better) in my entire life.

Never really a big fan anyway but if that song is anything to go by, its time to say bye bye.

eastmidswhizzkid · 07 Mar 2009, 15:27

i know they are much-loved and of course i don't begrudge them their career or their fans their enjoyment. but if they are going to flog the same horse it would be nice to see a return to darker, scarier days. (though theres little scarier than the bloated bus-pass chasing smith in girls world make-up.)

silentNate · 07 Mar 2009, 20:24

Its gone so far downhill after Disintergration that its gone beyond parody....

Bring back Lol!!!!

James Blast · 07 Mar 2009, 23:10

I stopped many years ago, they were never an obsession like The Sisters so haven't really disappointed me, but I'd love them to pull another heavy bad acid album like Porno outta their asses. Trilogy is essential in any DVD collection.

08 Mar 2009, 14:07

ahem.........

It is true (sadly) that The Cure are not a patch on the Cure of Seventeen Seconds through to Disintegration.
I will be brutally honest & say that the whimsical pop throwaways are on the whole, utter cr@p, but back it up with them being a darn sight better than most "mainstream" music around these days.
But even if WMS was a complete pile, the following albums did still shine in places, even if they were a little underwhelming.
As Uncle Jam~es said, Trilogy is a "must have". Not only because it is an all round belter of a music performance, but it is the best way to listen to the Bloodflowers album (IMHO).
But there is something else.
The Cure still make music & release it (remember what that was like?)

They still tour & do not wheel out a karaoke machine every night.
They play (when it's their show) for over 3 hours each show & they play well (ask Claire)

Even post Disintegration shows are incredible (check out any version of A Forest in 1996 for example).
Although the last album was at best "average" (still too fcuking loud mind) there is promised to be a darker companion album to come sometime around Bob's b-day.
Maybe this will be the heavy bad acid offering JB speaks of.
Fingers are crossed here.
But the scream seems to be pretty well "bad acid" & certainly not High or Lovecats or The 13th *spits*.

weebleswobble · 08 Mar 2009, 14:14

Pista wrote:

priceless

silentNate · 08 Mar 2009, 15:03

Listening to Pornography now- they will never be that good again but my main fear is that the reason for this is that most Cure fans just want more 'Friday I'm In Love' poppy stuff...

boudicca · 08 Mar 2009, 16:49

Pista wrote:They still tour & do not wheel out a karaoke machine every night.
They play (when it's their show) for over 3 hours each show & they play well (ask Claire)

Yes, I was impressed. My listening-to-Charlotte-Sometimes-in-my-bedroom-doing-ridiculous-eyeliner-experiments days are (I think) well behind me now, but it was still a very enjoyable show indeed

silentNate · 08 Mar 2009, 16:53

No-one can question their live show, I remember seeing them at Glastonbury well... hope to catch them again in the next couple of years but I will be wanting to hear the old stuff whilst using the time Bob spends playing new songs queueing at the bar

08 Mar 2009, 17:12

silentNate wrote:No-one can question their live show, I remember seeing them at Glastonbury well... hope to catch them again in the next couple of years but I will be wanting to hear the old stuff whilst using the time Bob spends playing new songs queueing at the bar

I have a recording of one of the 2007 Mexico shows & as soon as they started one of the WMS tracks (Club America) the taper went to the bar.
He left the gear running & all you can hear is the cure getting quieter & the bar getting louder.

Bartek · 08 Mar 2009, 18:29

Pista wrote: He left the gear running & all you can hear is the fat bob & co getting quieter & the bar getting louder.

isn't that a picture of this band ?

nodubmanshouts · 09 Mar 2009, 04:22

No-one can question their live show

I can. Boring as s**t when I saw them 20+ years ago, waste of 20 quid that was (back when 20 quid was worth a bit)

Droney 20 minutes instrumentals with a wailing fat git droning over the top? Oh c'mon.

Self indulgent bollox.

09 Mar 2009, 14:10

Hah.

I was wondering when someone would point out that the Emperor has no clothes.

I fell massively out of love with the Cure after hearing a couple of then-recent live bootlegs in about 1990. Boregasm.

I have listened to one of their albums precisely once since -- Pornography, while I was doing the washing up about two years ago. (I thought it was worth a try rehabilitating them.) Just tedious sixth-form pretentious wankery, incredibly derivative of Joy Division.

I'm now far more embarrassed to admit to ever owning a Cure record (indeed the whole back catalogue up to and including Disintegration) than I ever would be of any of the really dodgy darklings stuff I had.

Sorry.