**this thread was called kill or cure but i can't get round the filter that changes the name to fat bob and co.**
ok so there are many people here who love the cure more than their own livers and unlike myself listen to and enjoy all the different periods of their music (personally it's all about 17 seconds, faith and pornography. and the subway song.) but having seen them on johnathan ross's show playing yet another insipid whimsy pop song am i the only one who misses teh intensity of tracks like one hundred years etc,? where are those ramblingly simple guitar solos and tribal/mechanical (sounding) drums? should they give it up now?
Kill Or Be Cured?
- eastmidswhizzkid
- Faster Than The Light Of Speed
- Posts: 9857
- Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
- Location: WhizzWorld
- Contact:
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
I must confess that I lost interest in them some years back.
But I'm sure a lot of people say the same thing about the Sisters.
As long as they've got an audience and enjoy making records, I don't see any reason for them not to carry on. Never having been a massive fan (I liked them well eough at one point and acknowledge they've produced some damn fine records) it doesn't put me up nor down.
On a more selfish note - I'd far rather my taxes were spent on something other than providing Fat Bob with a giro.
But I'm sure a lot of people say the same thing about the Sisters.
As long as they've got an audience and enjoy making records, I don't see any reason for them not to carry on. Never having been a massive fan (I liked them well eough at one point and acknowledge they've produced some damn fine records) it doesn't put me up nor down.
On a more selfish note - I'd far rather my taxes were spent on something other than providing Fat Bob with a giro.
- weebleswobble
- Underneath the Rock
- Posts: 5875
- Joined: 09 Feb 2006, 06:57
- Location: The Bat-Milk Cave
- Contact:
You do realise that Pista will now have to kill you
I wish they'd stopped before about 3 albums ago. Musically while some of the new stuff has its moments as a whole it is sorely lacking. Even the production as been awful as well.
As for the band itself, well I'll never forgive Bob for getting rid of Roger O'Donnell. f**k his bared down sound, its The Cure (thank you QB) not The Jam!
Apart from Simon (who appears to be getting younger) they are an advert for no.stage.lighting.
Bob looks like Liz Tayor the morning after and Porl is WTF
But they can still pull them in and according to The NME are responsible for 83% of all new music, so obviously they are doing something right, right?
Anyhoo I'm going to lock all my doors now as I may be getting a visit from a mad Hungary based Englishman.
I wish they'd stopped before about 3 albums ago. Musically while some of the new stuff has its moments as a whole it is sorely lacking. Even the production as been awful as well.
As for the band itself, well I'll never forgive Bob for getting rid of Roger O'Donnell. f**k his bared down sound, its The Cure (thank you QB) not The Jam!
Apart from Simon (who appears to be getting younger) they are an advert for no.stage.lighting.
Bob looks like Liz Tayor the morning after and Porl is WTF
But they can still pull them in and according to The NME are responsible for 83% of all new music, so obviously they are doing something right, right?
Anyhoo I'm going to lock all my doors now as I may be getting a visit from a mad Hungary based Englishman.
‎"We will wear some very loud shirts. We will wear some very wrong trousers."
- Purple Light
- Slight Overbomber
- Posts: 1525
- Joined: 02 Feb 2004, 16:25
- Location: Kirkstall
- Contact:
I saw that Jonathan Ross performance & I don't think I've ever heard such a crap effortless pile of b*llocks of a song (by a band who can do so much better) in my entire life.
Never really a big fan anyway but if that song is anything to go by, its time to say bye bye.
Never really a big fan anyway but if that song is anything to go by, its time to say bye bye.
“I got lost in the mirror, wondering what could have been, I couldn’t help but kill her, but I couldn’t kill the dream.”
- eastmidswhizzkid
- Faster Than The Light Of Speed
- Posts: 9857
- Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
- Location: WhizzWorld
- Contact:
i know they are much-loved and of course i don't begrudge them their career or their fans their enjoyment. but if they are going to flog the same horse it would be nice to see a return to darker, scarier days. (though theres little scarier than the bloated bus-pass chasing smith in girls world make-up.)
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
- silentNate
- Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 824
- Joined: 11 Jul 2007, 07:48
- Location: Stars Hollow
Its gone so far downhill after Disintergration that its gone beyond parody....
Bring back Lol!!!!
Bring back Lol!!!!
I had a face on the mirror
I had a hand on the gun
I had a place in the sun and a ticket to Syria
I had a hand on the gun
I had a place in the sun and a ticket to Syria
- James Blast
- Banned
- Posts: 24699
- Joined: 11 Jun 2003, 18:58
- Location: back from some place else
I stopped many years ago, they were never an obsession like The Sisters so haven't really disappointed me, but I'd love them to pull another heavy bad acid album like Porno outta their asses. Trilogy is essential in any DVD collection.
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
~ Peter Steele
ahem.........
It is true (sadly) that The Cure are not a patch on the Cure of Seventeen Seconds through to Disintegration.
I will be brutally honest & say that the whimsical pop throwaways are on the whole, utter cr@p, but back it up with them being a darn sight better than most "mainstream" music around these days.
But even if WMS was a complete pile, the following albums did still shine in places, even if they were a little underwhelming.
As Uncle Jam~es said, Trilogy is a "must have". Not only because it is an all round belter of a music performance, but it is the best way to listen to the Bloodflowers album (IMHO).
But there is something else.
The Cure still make music & release it (remember what that was like?)
They still tour & do not wheel out a karaoke machine every night.
They play (when it's their show) for over 3 hours each show & they play well (ask Claire)
Even post Disintegration shows are incredible (check out any version of A Forest in 1996 for example).
Although the last album was at best "average" (still too fcuking loud mind) there is promised to be a darker companion album to come sometime around Bob's b-day.
Maybe this will be the heavy bad acid offering JB speaks of.
Fingers are crossed here.
But the scream seems to be pretty well "bad acid" & certainly not High or Lovecats or The 13th *spits*.
It is true (sadly) that The Cure are not a patch on the Cure of Seventeen Seconds through to Disintegration.
I will be brutally honest & say that the whimsical pop throwaways are on the whole, utter cr@p, but back it up with them being a darn sight better than most "mainstream" music around these days.
But even if WMS was a complete pile, the following albums did still shine in places, even if they were a little underwhelming.
As Uncle Jam~es said, Trilogy is a "must have". Not only because it is an all round belter of a music performance, but it is the best way to listen to the Bloodflowers album (IMHO).
But there is something else.
The Cure still make music & release it (remember what that was like?)
They still tour & do not wheel out a karaoke machine every night.
They play (when it's their show) for over 3 hours each show & they play well (ask Claire)
Even post Disintegration shows are incredible (check out any version of A Forest in 1996 for example).
Although the last album was at best "average" (still too fcuking loud mind) there is promised to be a darker companion album to come sometime around Bob's b-day.
Maybe this will be the heavy bad acid offering JB speaks of.
Fingers are crossed here.
But the scream seems to be pretty well "bad acid" & certainly not High or Lovecats or The 13th *spits*.
- weebleswobble
- Underneath the Rock
- Posts: 5875
- Joined: 09 Feb 2006, 06:57
- Location: The Bat-Milk Cave
- Contact:
pricelessPista wrote:
‎"We will wear some very loud shirts. We will wear some very wrong trousers."
- silentNate
- Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 824
- Joined: 11 Jul 2007, 07:48
- Location: Stars Hollow
Listening to Pornography now- they will never be that good again but my main fear is that the reason for this is that most Cure fans just want more 'Friday I'm In Love' poppy stuff...
I had a face on the mirror
I had a hand on the gun
I had a place in the sun and a ticket to Syria
I had a hand on the gun
I had a place in the sun and a ticket to Syria
- boudicca
- Sister Midnight
- Posts: 7427
- Joined: 15 Sep 2004, 16:15
- Location: embrace the margin
- Contact:
Yes, I was impressed. My listening-to-Charlotte-Sometimes-in-my-bedroom-doing-ridiculous-eyeliner-experiments days are (I think) well behind me now, but it was still a very enjoyable show indeedPista wrote:They still tour & do not wheel out a karaoke machine every night.
They play (when it's their show) for over 3 hours each show & they play well (ask Claire)
There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets
- silentNate
- Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 824
- Joined: 11 Jul 2007, 07:48
- Location: Stars Hollow
No-one can question their live show, I remember seeing them at Glastonbury well... hope to catch them again in the next couple of years but I will be wanting to hear the old stuff whilst using the time Bob spends playing new songs queueing at the bar
I had a face on the mirror
I had a hand on the gun
I had a place in the sun and a ticket to Syria
I had a hand on the gun
I had a place in the sun and a ticket to Syria
I have a recording of one of the 2007 Mexico shows & as soon as they started one of the WMS tracks (Club America) the taper went to the bar.silentNate wrote:No-one can question their live show, I remember seeing them at Glastonbury well... hope to catch them again in the next couple of years but I will be wanting to hear the old stuff whilst using the time Bob spends playing new songs queueing at the bar
He left the gear running & all you can hear is the cure getting quieter & the bar getting louder.
isn't that a picture of this band ?Pista wrote: He left the gear running & all you can hear is the fat bob & co getting quieter & the bar getting louder.
- nodubmanshouts
- Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 557
- Joined: 19 Oct 2003, 06:50
- Location: California
I can. Boring as s**t when I saw them 20+ years ago, waste of 20 quid that was (back when 20 quid was worth a bit)No-one can question their live show
Droney 20 minutes instrumentals with a wailing fat git droning over the top? Oh c'mon.
Self indulgent bollox.
- markfiend
- goriller of form 3b
- Posts: 21181
- Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
- Location: st custards
- Contact:
Hah. I was wondering when someone would point out that the Emperor has no clothes.
I fell massively out of love with the Cure after hearing a couple of then-recent live bootlegs in about 1990. Boregasm.
I have listened to one of their albums precisely once since -- Pornography, while I was doing the washing up about two years ago. (I thought it was worth a try rehabilitating them.) Just tedious sixth-form pretentious wankery, incredibly derivative of Joy Division.
I'm now far more embarrassed to admit to ever owning a Cure record (indeed the whole back catalogue up to and including Disintegration) than I ever would be of any of the really dodgy darklings stuff I had.
Sorry.
I fell massively out of love with the Cure after hearing a couple of then-recent live bootlegs in about 1990. Boregasm.
I have listened to one of their albums precisely once since -- Pornography, while I was doing the washing up about two years ago. (I thought it was worth a try rehabilitating them.) Just tedious sixth-form pretentious wankery, incredibly derivative of Joy Division.
I'm now far more embarrassed to admit to ever owning a Cure record (indeed the whole back catalogue up to and including Disintegration) than I ever would be of any of the really dodgy darklings stuff I had.
Sorry.
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell