And there is the truth...would he? My guess is not knowing the tales ofZacheryAllanStarkey wrote: As such.....Eldo could record and release the songs he wrote with Varjack and Adam, so long as he made sure that they were paid royalties.
I think.
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And there is the truth...would he? My guess is not knowing the tales ofZacheryAllanStarkey wrote: As such.....Eldo could record and release the songs he wrote with Varjack and Adam, so long as he made sure that they were paid royalties.
I think.
U2 on tour in 2009 with only songs from Achtung Baby and 2 from the new cd?copper wrote:
And it's a bit silly to showcase a decade old material; if he has any intention of catching up with parties interested on the prospect of a new album (which is, of course, doubtful at best) , he needs to be able to say the songs are by the current lineup and they represent the present-day songwriting capability of the act.
Or he just gets bored and writes a new song every five or so years.
Labels? Labels..what are those?copper wrote:Wasn't talking about setlists; audience favorites and golden oldies are mandatory to gain the optimal reaction. Have no qualms with that.
Was referring to labels (if, of course, Von intends to catch up with them).
I don't know anything about the Nick Cave example but permission always needs to be obtained to record someone else's song in any format. That's the whole point of copyright: to prevent someone else from exploiting your work without permission. it's not just about the royalties but about the right to control your own intellectual property.ZacheryAllanStarkey wrote:I do not think that permission is needed to record a song so long as the writer is paid royalities. IE..Martin Gore didn't need Nick Cave's permission to record "Loverman" so long as Cave got royalties. I think you only need permission of the songwriter if you want to change the lyrics.
As such.....Eldo could record and release the songs he wrote with Varjack and Adam, so long as he made sure that they were paid royalties.
I think.
Or just written his own music. He's always said that he doesn't mind who does what as long as it gets done. But not much of it has been done in the last fifteen years and AE particularly seems to have relied on others to write the music. Could his own lack of musical compositions be telling us something?markfiend wrote:had Andrew wanted to release something independently, he could simply have fired Adam from the band.
He wouldn't even need to fire Adam to do this.markfiend wrote:had Andrew wanted to release something independently, he could simply have fired Adam from the band.
I think it tells a lot.stufarq wrote:Could his own lack of musical compositions be telling us something?
I have often wondered about this....stufarq wrote:Or just written his own music. He's always said that he doesn't mind who does what as long as it gets done. But not much of it has been done in the last fifteen years and AE particularly seems to have relied on others to write the music. Could his own lack of musical compositions be telling us something?markfiend wrote:had Andrew wanted to release something independently, he could simply have fired Adam from the band.
Would you work, if you don't have to?ZacheryAllanStarkey wrote: Von's written at least four hit singles on his own (Temple of Love, Dominion, Corrosion, Lucretia), whats stopping him from doing so again?
I don't think he performed them solo. As far as we all know, Floodland used musicians from James Ray's Performance while RH and TOL were made by the original Marx/Adams/Gunn line-up.ZacheryAllanStarkey wrote:Eldritch wrote and performed the Reptile House EP by himself, right? He wrote and played Temple of Love, yes?
Eldo also wrote all of Floodland and performed the majority of it himself, correct?
So Floodland was basically an Andrew Eldritch solo album issued under the Sisters name..
It's possible that Eldritch wrote the top line melodies (ie the tune for the vocals) while Pearson wrote all the instrumental music. That's quite a common songwriting arrangement for singers/lyricists. If either scenario were the case, there would be no separating the musical copyright and both would own it jointly, giving Eldritch the right to release the songs if he wanted to...ZacheryAllanStarkey wrote:I do think Von has contributed musically to Crash and Burn and Arms...the chorus's of Crash and Burn and Arms have a lot of similarity to Floodland song structure...leading me to believe that Adam Pearson wrote the music for the verses of Crash and Burn while Eldritch wrote the music for the choruses of Crash and Burn, and that Chris wrote the music for the verse of Arms and Eldo the music for the chorus