Alice
Thanks, Jürgen. It also took me 22 years to realize this, so it had better be a good train of thought, mhehe...
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So you have trains of thought?Ahráyeph wrote:Thanks, Jürgen. It also took me 22 years to realize this, so it had better be a good train of thought, mhehe...
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is the title of a Tangerine Dream album involved?Ahráyeph wrote:You really think I'd rely on Belgian public transportation to take care of my thoughts? I've got my own train for that, yessirree!
it is, isn't it
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fekin' prog rockersJames Blast wrote:is the title of a Tangerine Dream album involved?Ahráyeph wrote:You really think I'd rely on Belgian public transportation to take care of my thoughts? I've got my own train for that, yessirree!
it is, isn't it
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nivir did like ye, onywiseweebleswobble wrote:fekin' prog rockers
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MasterBlaster-you have a stonkin' gonzoid time!James Blast wrote:nivir did like ye, onywiseweebleswobble wrote:fekin' prog rockers
I must attempt sleep (again)
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why start now Stephen?weebleswobble wrote: must attempt sleep (again)
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A futile few hoursJames Blast wrote:why start now Stephen?weebleswobble wrote: must attempt sleep (again)
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Hmm... *relistens to Some Girls... version*nick the stripper wrote:Yep. The song always changes "Alice in her party dress, thanks you kindly, so serene" to "Alice in her party, dressed to kill, she thanks you, turns away" the second time the pre-chorus kicks in.markfiend wrote:It's always "dressed to kill" isn't it?Episkopos wrote:** - I swear I've heard "in her party dressed to kill, she thanks you" on a couple of live versions, but I can't quite remember which.
Dead right. My ears must be on the blink again...
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I am not entirely sure and it may sound a little nit-picky, but shouldn't it be:Episkopos wrote:[snip]dead stars wrote:Could anyone post the correct lyrics for Alice?
Tell her where the sun shines bright and tell her she can have it all today...
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"Tell her where the sunshine's bright"
With "bright" being an adjective and all.
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not if sun is the noun and shine is the verbLord Emsworth wrote:I am not entirely sure and it may sound a little nit-picky, but shouldn't it be:Episkopos wrote:[snip]dead stars wrote:Could anyone post the correct lyrics for Alice?
Tell her where the sun shines bright and tell her she can have it all today...
[snip]
"Tell her where the sunshine's bright"
With "bright" being an adjective and all.
and nit-picky is what the lyrics section is about
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?
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but correct grammar would be tell her where the sun shines brightly -- it's an adverb qualifying the verb 'shines'.
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There's been a lot of talk in this thread about religion. Presumably this stems from the tarot line as nothing else even comes close - but Tarot cards aren't used in any religion and have no real association with one. They're used in fortune telling and are otherwise just decorative playing cards but there's no religious connection at all. The association with the crystal in the song (and the use of the word "spread") make clear that it's a reference to fortune telling and probably, in the popular imagination, to the occult in general.
Any more of that and we'll be round your front door with the quick-setting whitewash and the shaved monkey.
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a witch at night
a witch at night
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paint it black wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Ask_Alice
Because Go Ask Alice includes profanity as well as relatively explicit references to runaways, drugs, sex, and rape, conservative parents, activists, and in at least one alleged case a state governor (Sarah Palin, AK)[5] have sought to remove it from school libraries.
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I read an interview where he said the line "Pass the crystal/Spread the tarot/In Illusion comfort lies" was a comment on how black magic is little more than a substitute for intelligence/intelligent comments...summat along those lines.
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Tarot and crystal balls are just devices used by occult practitioners to help with their natural intuition and divination. A lot of wiccans use tarot in this way. Tarot, the I Ching, chicken entrails, they're all used for similar purposes.
It's not entirely appropriate to lump it all in with 'black magic'.
However if there is the chance that Eldritch is misinformed about this, then it will be reflected in his lyric writing.
It's not entirely appropriate to lump it all in with 'black magic'.
However if there is the chance that Eldritch is misinformed about this, then it will be reflected in his lyric writing.
I think we've been in here too long. I feel unusual. I think we should go outside.
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maybe he chose to lump them together because of his disdain for such things...Harvey Winston wrote:Tarot and crystal balls are just devices used by occult practitioners to help with their natural intuition and divination. A lot of wiccans use tarot in this way. Tarot, the I Ching, chicken entrails, they're all used for similar purposes.
It's not entirely appropriate to lump it all in with 'black magic'.
However if there is the chance that Eldritch is misinformed about this, then it will be reflected in his lyric writing.
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?
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Ah, I see. So he is an atheist? No belief system - nothing other than the tangible? (nb that's not pejorative - I'm mangling this but I hope you get my drift). Apologies but I know nothing of his views on the subject.Quiff Boy wrote: maybe he chose to lump them together because of his disdain for such things...
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i don't know, but as far as i can tell he's never been anything other than mocking/critical* about the occult, religious extremism, and the more novelty of mainstream religions (such as creationism).
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i get the impression that religion (be it organised, mainstream or fringe) just doesn't figure into the equation.
he seems a very secular person, more concerned with humanistic matters that have a direct impact on the individual and on society to be bothered about nonsense notions of godhead or the divine
note his attitudes to animal welfare vs human welfare...
* delete as approriate
i get the impression that religion (be it organised, mainstream or fringe) just doesn't figure into the equation.
he seems a very secular person, more concerned with humanistic matters that have a direct impact on the individual and on society to be bothered about nonsense notions of godhead or the divine
note his attitudes to animal welfare vs human welfare...
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?