Patricia and Von - Why did they have a quarrel?

the_inescapable_truth · 14 Jun 2009, 12:24

Andrew is hard to work with? This is revelatory!

Seriously though, I can accept Andrew may be a bit unnice, but I only know him through his great lyrics, so he's still well cool in my book. I bought a mask...

And don't worry Pat. Some of us still wank furiously over your image at 2:23 in the This Corrosion video.

Perki · 14 Jun 2009, 15:09

Prescott wrote:I'm more interested in Adam's departure though, to be honest. Wonder how that MC5 bit is going?

I think getting an interview with Adam and Andrew together would clear many things up, has this been tried?

I'll second this. Has Adam ever given an interview about the Sisters?

Prescott · 15 Jun 2009, 01:27

Perki wrote:
Prescott wrote:I'm more interested in Adam's departure though, to be honest. Wonder how that MC5 bit is going?

I think getting an interview with Adam and Andrew together would clear many things up, has this been tried?
I'll second this. Has Adam ever given an interview about the Sisters?

I believe during the Smoke and Mirrors tour he may have briefly spoken with a reporter, but I wouldn't call that an interview. I'll try to figure out where I thought I read something like that.

If Adam would be willing to do an interview about the Sisters that would be great.

mistressteal · 16 Jun 2009, 11:34

I imagine a lot of slamming of doors and pouting...

16 Jun 2009, 12:12

Anyway.

I was listening to Floodland in the car this morning:

Dominion / Mother Russia I'm not sure about
Flood I is synth bass
Lucretia is a real bass
1959 has no bass

and that's as far through the CD as I got

Moakahontas · 16 Jun 2009, 13:19

markfiend wrote:Anyway.

I was listening to Floodland in the car this morning:
Dominion / Mother Russia I'm not sure about

Flood I is synth bass

Lucretia is a real bass

1959 has no bass

and that's as far through the CD as I got

timsinister · 16 Jun 2009, 15:35

markfiend wrote:Anyway.

I was listening to Floodland in the car this morning:
Dominion / Mother Russia I'm not sure about

Flood I is synth bass

Lucretia is a real bass

1959 has no bass

and that's as far through the CD as I got

Driving Whilst Flooded? Can't you be pulled over for that?

EvilBastard · 16 Jun 2009, 16:50

timsinister wrote:Driving Whilst Flooded? Can't you be pulled over for that?

Better than driving while enVisioned - I did that once, as Plod came over and I rolled down the window he was greated by "Gimme something fast".
It's a fair cop.

timsinister · 16 Jun 2009, 17:00

EvilBastard wrote:Better than driving while enVisioned - I did that once, as Plod came over and I rolled down the window he was greated by "Gimme something fast".
It's a fair cop.

Can only sympathise - heading home, clutching my newly purchased copy of FaLaA, I was intercepted by the local constabulary. They did me for Posession!

*ba-dum-tish*

EvilBastard · 16 Jun 2009, 17:06

timsinister wrote:...heading home, clutching my newly purchased copy of FaLaA, I was intercepted by the local constabulary. They did me for Posession!

Thank you, thank you - we're here all week. Try the veal!

16 Jun 2009, 18:16

Yes.

the rest of Floodland sounds to me like a combination of both synth-bass and real bass on most tracks. Make of that what you will.

stufarq · 16 Jun 2009, 22:13

EvilBastard wrote:
timsinister wrote:...heading home, clutching my newly purchased copy of FaLaA, I was intercepted by the local constabulary. They did me for Posession!

Thank you, thank you - we're here all week. Try the veal!

They did me for possession too. But my head was spinning around and I was projectile vomiting pea soup so it was a fair cop.

Llamatron · 16 Jun 2009, 23:22

markfiend wrote:Yes.

the rest of Floodland sounds to me like a combination of both synth-bass and real bass on most tracks. Make of that what you will.

Dominion/MR is probably real, but sounds like it may very well be looped. It's got an interesting texture to it; there might be a synth doubling it in there.

Flood I is synth, as is This Corrosion (fun as hell to play funk-slap style on a real bass, though). I suspect Flood II is real; sounds like there's some chorus running on the bass. Driven Like The Snow is real (and awesome), as is Neverland.

If you want to count Torch and Colours

, the former's real and the latter is synth.

All the real bass was played with a pick.

FWIW.

EvilBastard · 17 Jun 2009, 01:03

stufarq wrote:They did me for possession too. But my head was spinning around and I was projectile vomiting pea soup so it was a fair cop.

If that is what passes for 90% of the law these days I'm glad I jacked in my job as a barrister!

17 Jun 2009, 10:15

Llamatron wrote:Flood I is synth, as is This Corrosion (fun as hell to play funk-slap style on a real bass, though). I suspect Flood II is real; sounds like there's some chorus running on the bass. Driven Like The Snow is real

I think This Corrosion has real bass in as well as synth bass.

_emma_ · 17 Jun 2009, 10:45

Synth or not, the album is great, and they looked great on videos and photos as a couple, and that whole era in Sisters history was great and Patricias's presence is a vital part of that era, and she was, and always will remain, a very important person in the history of the band no matter whether she played any instruments on the album or not, and no matter what they quarreled about as they split. That's my opinion about that woman, thank you.

Debi · 17 Jun 2009, 10:52

_emma_ wrote:Synth or not, the album is great, and they looked great on videos and photos as a couple, and that whole era in Sisters history was great and Patricias's presence is a vital part of that era, and she was, and always will remain, a very important person in the history of the band no matter whether she played any instruments on the album or not, and no matter what they quarreled about as they split. That's my opinion about that woman, thank you.

agree

17 Jun 2009, 10:58

Yes, well said _emma_

17 Jun 2009, 11:04

Debi wrote:
_emma_ wrote:Synth or not, the album is great, and they looked great on videos and photos as a couple, and that whole era in Sisters history was great and Patricias's presence is a vital part of that era, and she was, and always will remain, a very important person in the history of the band no matter whether she played any instruments on the album or not, and no matter what they quarreled about as they split. That's my opinion about that woman, thank you.
agree

nicely put

lachert · 17 Jun 2009, 11:29

PatriciaVanian wrote:When I left instead of pay I was given some clothes and stuff in lieu of pay and was treated like dirt.

what clothes? andrew's clothes?

vicus · 17 Jun 2009, 12:04

lachert wrote:
PatriciaVanian wrote:When I left instead of pay I was given some clothes and stuff in lieu of pay and was treated like dirt.
what clothes? andrew's clothes?

yes

lachert · 17 Jun 2009, 12:26

vicus wrote:
lachert wrote:
PatriciaVanian wrote:When I left instead of pay I was given some clothes and stuff in lieu of pay and was treated like dirt.
what clothes? andrew's clothes?
yes

ah, yeah, i miss out on that auctions. what a insolent bastard

thanks god that she makes some money from all that garbage after all.

AdrenaChris · 17 Jun 2009, 19:47

The bass on Flood II and Driven sounds a bit too real to have been synth....maybe sampled from a real bass, but I know naff all about sampling so I'll shut up there. Still a real bass, surely. As for Dominion it has the same kind of tone as those 2 songs but doesn't quite sound as "real".

stufarq · 17 Jun 2009, 22:59

Dominion sounds synth to me.

I agree with markfiend that This Corrosion has real bass as well as synth.

I'd agree pretty much with the rest but does anyone know how good synths were at producing authentic bass sounds in 1986? Could they have produced something that sounds like a real bass and fooled us on tracks like Lucretia etc that appear to be obviously real?

Being645 · 17 Jun 2009, 23:37

As far as I remember, 1986 was the time when the first generation of samplers appeared ...