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Dark wrote:Apparently it's synth bass, I can't even hear any bass on them.
I shared a room with Adams in Germany after a Mishun show and he 'spilled the beans' on the split and synth bass story. He's not on No Time Cry's b-sides. As for the split..... It all escapes me. Bugger!
The bass parts on Blood Money and Bury Me Deep are all synths.
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make and model, enquiring minds needs to know? ;D
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Now there's a question. One of the Emaxes I think.
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Thinking about it again, its more likely to have been one of the Rolands that The Sisters purchased for the Doctor to play with - they play quite nicely with percussion 'instruments'.
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Thanking yew! :D :notworthy:
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That's that answered then! :lol:
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Oh well. When're they getting a synthesized vocalist? :lol:
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Dark wrote:Oh well. When're they getting a synthesized vocalist? :lol:
According to HAL synth vocals will commence in 2010.
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If it was a "either him or me" then it`s a bloody shame that it wasn`t Wayne that walked out the door first.. Gary`s songs are way better than Wayne`s on FALAA...And the first Ghostdance singles are way better than anything m*****n ever done.
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I always thpight the "him or me" was Marx or Eldritch, with Gary's hand being forced because he'd stopped turning up to soundchecks. Have I got that wrong?
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A friend of mine recently met Lucas Fox in Paris. Former Motörhead drummer and enginer on Floodland told him interesting things. Among others:
1) When Wayne left the Sisters, he took with him music, equipment and instruments. Andrew went mad and paranoiac about it. He took the habit to hide a lot of things, in a secret room just like the villain in a James Bond movie.
2) Lucas Fox played all the guitars and keyboards parts on Floodland (it was 20 years ago that I was wondering who played on the album but nobody could tell me), and even wrote some material; he was of course never credited for that.
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Yet another account conflicting with all the others! (See http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0)
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BeyondThePale wrote: 1) When Wayne left the Sisters, he took with him music, equipment and instruments. Andrew went mad and paranoiac about it. He took the habit to hide a lot of things, in a secret room just like the villain in a James Bond movie.
One of those rooms was at Adam's burnt down house.
The other one is so secret that Andrew doesn't know where it is. That's why the new album didn't surface yet.

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BeyondThePale wrote: 2) Lucas Fox played all the guitars and keyboards parts on Floodland.
Why don't I believe this, coming from the guy who was kicked out of Lemmy's band for doing too many drugs?!?
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BeyondThePale wrote:1) When Wayne left the Sisters, he took with him music, equipment and instruments.
This part at least is credible. See the "stolen guitars" line in Flood I

Although that might just refer to the tunes that Wayne nicked.
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BeyondThePale wrote: 1) When Wayne left the Sisters, he took with him music, equipment and instruments. Andrew went mad and paranoiac about it. He took the habit to hide a lot of things, in a secret room just like the villain in a James Bond movie.
... while paranoia is also a well-observed side-effect of
cocaine and amphetamine abuse, especially in stressful situations ... :?
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Of course... But it IS a "stressful situation"! A very stressful one, indeed.
Moreover, this incident made that his paranoia went worse than before (according to Lucas Fox).
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H. Blackrose wrote:
BeyondThePale wrote: 2) Lucas Fox played all the guitars and keyboards parts on Floodland.
Why don't I believe this, coming from the guy who was kicked out of Lemmy's band for doing too many drugs?!?
not only this, he, BeyondThePale, wrote that Lucas Fix said to him that he - Lucas - wrote "some material" it's imspossible that he didn't fought for "his" money, of course if he didn't had any evidence of this is understood, but letting the money and not even said anythinf aloud in media during this time when greater part of journalsits attacked Von and wrote rubbish about him.
"there's too much blood in my vodkastream" methink. :roll:
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Yes, but anyway, I told what Lucas Fox had said, I didn't say it was the truth. :wink:
And it seems that he is not the only person not to tell the truth (if he lied) in this whole story...
Anyway, I will meet him soon for an interview, hoping to get more precise answers.
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none said that you believe his words, but we - i - just, ye know, tried demolished his theory/story by some rational reasons and facts.
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My friend also told me that Lucas Fox said Andrew was a very cultured guy. It's not a scoop, but it's not a lie - I think.
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BeyondThePale wrote:My friend also told me that Lucas Fox said Andrew was a very cultured guy. It's not a scoop, but it's not a lie - I think.

He is, yes..he is, of course..
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markfiend wrote:
BeyondThePale wrote:1) When Wayne left the Sisters, he took with him music, equipment and instruments.
This part at least is credible. See the "stolen guitars" line in Flood I

Although that might just refer to the tunes that Wayne nicked.
Also see Wayne's sleevenotes for the First Chapter reissue, where he makes reference to these stolen guitars.

Am I right in thinking that this is about the only part of the entire story that's reasonably consistently told by all participants?
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BeyondThePale wrote: 2) Lucas Fox played all the guitars and keyboards parts on Floodland ... and even wrote some material; he was of course never credited for that.
Doesn't sound that far-fetched to me.
To the contrary ... I've always imagined that when Wayne's "measures"
had reached that level (not to mention the, say, threat scenarios he
might - in my imagination - quite deliberately have spread ...)
Andrew sought shelter with Alan Vega and Lucas Fox ... both
of whom showed to be what one might, actually, call friends ...

But this might only have happened in my dreams decades ago ... :roll:
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10 minute interview with Wayne on this podcast http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news ... k-podcast/

He starts yapping about 10 minutes in. Mainly about the Mish but touches on The Sisters split as well. Nothing new in there, but from the horses mouth I guess... 8)
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