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Got any interesting thoughts on a set of lyrics? Any that don't involve the word "indeed"? Find yourself struggling to decipher all those obtuse references Von makes? Read "1959 And All That" and still no clearer? Nope, us neither. Postcards found lying in a skip around the back of the Chemists can be found here... Don't say you weren't warned.
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wait few days for final version ... :wink: :lol:
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Methedrome wrote:And it was Rhine!
army of the Rhine.
anyone knows what this is all about?
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christophe wrote:
Methedrome wrote:And it was Rhine!
army of the Rhine.
anyone knows what this is all about?
must be something about rhine gold. give me the ring of the nibelungs or what... ;D
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christophe wrote:
Methedrome wrote:And it was Rhine!
army of the Rhine.
anyone knows what this is all about?
British Army of the Rhine
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The BAOR and RAFG were both stationed predominately in this region:

"The State. Image: Edgard Hörz
Author: Philipp Schiwek
Keyword: nrw

Sixty years ago the fusion between parts of the Rhineland and Westphalia happened under the codeword Operation Marriage when, on 23 August 1946, the British Military Administration established the state. And considering the diversity of rural Westphalia and industrial Northern Rhineland, the fusion was rather more a marriage of convenience than of love."

http://www.amazingneuss.com/visit-disco ... state.html

Interesting that "Operation Marriage" by the British Army brought this about.

This could shed a new light of the actual context of "Married to a soldier in the Army of the Rhine"

Many Brits still live there, and I would also presume that if you were the son of a RAFG Officer stationed in NRW, Germany you might just have a mix of an English accent and German one and speak both languages fluently.

Interesting how I found this though. First after speaking with a lead singer from a supposedly unrelated band and asking about some song lyrics I discovered the BAOR.

While looking into the only known live recording of the same seemingly unrelated band, a recording supposedly made in Neuss in 1992, look what I ended up finding?

I've always believed the lyrics to the newer stuff to be deceptively simple.
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I suppose it's possible Von lived in Germany as a child although if that were the case,I'd also expect him to have spoken German fluently.And he didn't.In the early 80s,his German was described as "fair" by one german interviewer and only "passable" by another.This is what you'd expect from someone who learned a second language in school as opposed to having actually lived in a foreign country.
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Uh, not necessarily. Being an RAF brat he admitedly moved around quite a bit in his childhood. There was that interview where he mentioned early memories in Singapore. So his not speaking Chinese fluently doesn't mean he never lived there either. My guess is that he lived in Germany for a longer stretch though. Maybe he was born there? All we know for certain about his past is all he has told us. Yet I find deciphering some of his lyrics, if not all of them, difficult to say the least without some autobiographical context. I'm past caring about my own subjective interpretations. Nietzsche wrote "Ecce Homo" for some good reasons and maybe Von will too one day. I'm sure it would be a fascinating read. :)
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I think all we will ever have for Vons "Ecce Homo" is his work-the songs and bits of writing in UTR,etc.The most recent interview has him saying he won't write his memoirs (as well as giving several reasons why.sigh.)
What annoys me is that I know,eventually,someone will write his biography or "The Definitive Guide to the Lyrics" and they will get it all WRONG just like that horrid Enid Starkie did with Rimbaud.
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Nadia81 wrote:I think all we will ever have for Vons "Ecce Homo" is his work-the songs and bits of writing in UTR,etc.The most recent interview has him saying he won't write his memoirs (as well as giving several reasons why.sigh.)
What annoys me is that I know,eventually,someone will write his biography or "The Definitive Guide to the Lyrics" and they will get it all WRONG just like that horrid Enid Starkie did with Rimbaud.

I totally agree with that. Ta. :)
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Does he state that in that Classic Rock magazine interview? No memoirs? What were his reasons for saying he would not?
That's such a shame really. I'd bet he's had a rather interesting life.
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He said he couldn't remember most of it ... but read for yourself ...

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic. ... 394#481394

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Nadia81 wrote: What annoys me is that I know,eventually,someone will write his biography or "The Definitive Guide to the Lyrics" and they will get it all WRONG just like that horrid Enid Starkie did with Rimbaud.
Oh, I wish that won't happen ... but it probably will ... :(
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That man has more reasons for NOT doing things... :roll: :lol:
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Nadia81 wrote:That man has more reasons for NOT doing things...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Nadia81 wrote:That man has more reasons for NOT doing things... :roll: :lol:
:lol: ... :cry: ... obviously.

But deep in my heart (whatever COCK or DICK I'm get named for this
expression), I'm convinced he's doing far more things than we use to imagine ... ;D
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Being645 wrote:
Nadia81 wrote:That man has more reasons for NOT doing things... :roll: :lol:
:lol: ... :cry: ... obviously.

But deep in my heart (whatever COCK or DICK I'm get named for this
expression), I'm convinced he's doing far more things than we use to imagine ... ;D
If someone says something awful about you for thinking that Being645, then they can count me in too. I think he's working on something too. 8)
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:D ... Thanks.
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For the record, I never stated which "seemingly unrelated band" and for good reason.
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... :?: ... I really don't get what you're talking about ... :D
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No, maybe you don't, but someone here will.
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Prescott wrote:No, maybe you don't, but someone here will.
I think I do but I don't believe it. :lol:
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Prescott wrote: I think he's working on something too. 8)
His own private Linux distro? EldoLinux? Eldux? Vonix? Nonproductive Gitix?
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sultan2075 wrote:
Prescott wrote: I think he's working on something too. 8)
His own private Linux distro? EldoLinux? Eldux? Vonix? Nonproductive Gitix?
:lol: ... sounds like a hell lot of work, however ...
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Being645 wrote:
sultan2075 wrote:
Prescott wrote: I think he's working on something too. 8)
His own private Linux distro? EldoLinux? Eldux? Vonix? Nonproductive Gitix?
:lol: ... sounds like a hell lot of work, however ...
Oh cool..I use Windows RP*.. :notworthy: ..and try to use Linux.. :?

I could need his help..Von, could you gimme some private coaching? :|



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Moakahontas wrote:
Being645 wrote:
sultan2075 wrote: His own private Linux distro? EldoLinux? Eldux? Vonix? Nonproductive Gitix?
:lol: ... sounds like a hell lot of work, however ...
Oh cool..I use Windows RP*.. :notworthy: ..and try to use Linux.. :?

I could need his help..Von, could you gimme some private coaching? :|




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If you'd like I could help you with the Gitix, but that's about all I'm afraid. :innocent:
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sultan2075 wrote:
Prescott wrote: I think he's working on something too. 8)
His own private Linux distro? EldoLinux? Eldux? Vonix? Nonproductive Gitix?
lol :lol:
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