Calm down, dear! It's only the internet!indy wrote: And if anyone wants to fight about it feel free.....I am angry and ready to kill.
Art - does this say Sisters Of Mercy to you?
"angry and ready to kill"? Dear me...I understand your indignation but at the same time Ramone is so very absurd and silly - a different tone,as they say.While I have only been here a short time,as far as I can see there is only one rule - "Play nice"
Now hang on, if I get this right I can call people all manner of disgusting things but if I do it in jest it'd be o.k? Nah, I don't think so.7anthea7 wrote:Here's a clue for free: If you'd been paying attention, you'd have realised Ramone throws that sort of inflammatory stuff around all the time - and it's understood that's it's not meant to be taken seriously. Holding him up as justification is understandable, I suppose, but also fairly ludicrous. Is it PC? Not a bit. Were these 'personal attacks'? Also, not a bit - because they were understood, in context. You can call your friends idiots in jest, and they won't take offense. But using a distasteful adjective in the way you did implies something about your character/maturity/judgment that does not go down well around here.
And I'll accept that my judgment was less than perfect when I posted my comment (which I'm not going to edit or remove, because I'll take my knocks for it). But you pissed me off - less with your original comment than with the attitude you've flung when called on it.
Grow.The.Fuck.Up.
Indy showed a flaw in his character/lack of maturity and poor judgement? To be honest so does anyone using those terms no matter who they be.
Indy I feel did display the typical playground and childish response of 'well they did it too so I can't be blamed/told off' Which immediately then lost any sympathy for him. An apology followed by a but is no apology whatsoever.
We either accept bigoted language from no-one or everyone - I know which I'd prefer.
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Anyway back to the topic on hand - although I wouldn't give it house room it does exactly what it says on the tin - who wouldn't want to encourage Mr Schicklgruber over a cliff - big todger or not.James Blast wrote:
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Nope, nope, nope - sorry if I didn't make myself clear. It's not 'okay', but at least it's understood that you could have substituted 'wanker', 'mofo', or any other of myriad 'insults', and they wouldn't have been taken as personal attacks, 'cause - well, that's just Ramone. Which is why I said using him as justification was ludicrous, because it wasn't in the same spirit. I did not by any means intend to promote a double standard.Debaser wrote:Now hang on, if I get this right I can call people all manner of disgusting things but if I do it in jest it'd be o.k?
Couldn't agree with you more.And also wrote:Indy showed a flaw in his character/lack of maturity and poor judgement? To be honest so does anyone using those terms no matter who they be.
See previous response. And that's what really pushed my buttons.And then wrote:An apology followed by a but is no apology whatsoever.
It's a tough call, that one, innit? Do the mods play nanny and ban any 'language' whatsoever in the event that it might offend someone (which amounts to censorship), or do they have to analyse every potentially offensive comment for intent? I have my own internal meter for these things - but not everyone's is set the same.And finally wrote:We either accept bigoted language from no-one or everyone - I know which I'd prefer.
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Not to my taste stylistically either - but effective. It's what I consider 'public' (i.e. belongs on view in a public setting) rather than 'private' art - too uncomfortable to live with on intimate terms, yet paradoxically also tends to lose its impact if it's just part of a daily environment.Debaser wrote:Anyway back to the topic on hand - although I wouldn't give it house room it does exactly what it says on the tin - who wouldn't want to encourage Mr Schicklgruber over a cliff - big todger or not.James Blast wrote:
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Ramone can get away with it because he's a big gayer.
Anyway, we'll let this derail drop now, OK?
Ramone can get away with it because he's a big gayer.
Anyway, we'll let this derail drop now, OK?
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He forgot the word erectus!markfiend wrote:That's a good point actually.metal on metal wrote:Could you elaborate on why you've used this word, please?indy wrote:
Throwing Copper was the album by the band 'Live'.
I wouldn't buy it just because it's associated with that crybaby homo band.
Sorry to have missed it.
We don't like homophobia round these parts.
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Smutty boy.Ozpat wrote:He forgot the word erectus!markfiend wrote:That's a good point actually.metal on metal wrote: Could you elaborate on why you've used this word, please?
Sorry to have missed it.
We don't like homophobia round these parts.
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... nice ... ...Ozpat wrote:...indy wrote: Throwing Copper was the album by the band 'Live'.
I wouldn't buy it just because it's associated with that crybaby homo band.
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He forgot the word erectus!
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erotica would have been better
I don't wanna live like I don't mind
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*halo*
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sorry for off-top but it's very nice painting.
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You're off topic for being on topic now?
HL in full effect
HL in full effect
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—Bertrand Russell
oh sorry i thought that you were talking with guy who have some hindui religious symbol as his avatar about not being homophobic dumb ass and pointing (him) that some words are at least rude.
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nope, it's just perspex. you can't see it.markfiend wrote:It's slipped dear.emilystrange wrote:*halo*
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Well, yes. But originally...Bartek wrote:oh sorry i thought that you were talking with guy who have some hindui religious symbol as his avatar about not being homophobic dumb ass and pointing (him) that some words are at least rude.
Never mind, sorry Bartek I thought it was funny. And now I'm confused as to whether you're playing along or think I was being mean to you.
Internets, eh?
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Sir i'm at work.
don't be oversensitive (about me).
don't be oversensitive (about me).
baisicaly that's my fault, i'm trying to use a words instead of emoticons. but yes i forgot that sacrasm and irony can lost in zero-one world (and in translation).
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I've decided Mr Bartek has the driest sense of humour I've ever encountered - and that's saying something. [insert emoticon here]
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I always laugh when ever I see this guy's work. My brother is called Peter Howson.James Blast wrote:Peter Howson's painting, it was used on an album cover by Throwing Copper (who?) is up for sale, bag it now fanatics!
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