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for me it's more like "poster/picture on the wall" - your idol someone in for you looking and sighing.
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nope
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Bartek wrote:for me it's more like "poster/picture on the wall"
As is Marlene in the Suzanne Vega song.
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Since we're necro-ing threads and stuff...

Hey, what about Susann Atwell?
There seems to be something going on here, not?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzMgn-v0Cac
Introducing....Gothzilla?!?
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Guedzilla wrote:Since we're necro-ing threads and stuff...

Hey, what about Susann Atwell?
There seems to be something going on here, not?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzMgn-v0Cac
susann is a very beautiful woman, that's for sure ;D
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what a down market smelly hole

the place, not her
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everybody needs rehearsals, even sisters... :lol:
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It has occurred to me recently that the phrase 'on the wall' could be interpreted as a translation of the German surname Auf der Maur. (Ok, I know Mauer is wall, not Maur, but they may be related.)

Could this give any clues about the identity of the mysterious Suzanne?

Also, I wondered if 'out of phase' may be a reference of some kind to Suzanne 'getting you on her wavelength' in the Leonard Cohen song; wavelength and phase are both properties of waves (including electromagnetic and sound.) So in some metaphorical way if you're on the same wavelength as someone but out of phase, you might have trouble interacting with them as you're always 45 degrees behind them (or something.) :?
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explain "Marlena on the Wall" by Suzanne Vega, then get one!

Jeeziz!
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James Blast wrote:explain "Marlena on the Wall" by Suzanne Vega, then get one!

Jeeziz!
stufarq wrote:
Bartek wrote:for me it's more like "poster/picture on the wall"
As is Marlene in the Suzanne Vega song.
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well, that's that sorted.. NEXT!
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everybody knows that he's a common thief, but at least, he don't steal from the bible as much as the others :roll:
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Jeremiah wrote:It has occurred to me recently that the phrase 'on the wall' could be interpreted as a translation of the German surname Auf der Maur. (Ok, I know Mauer is wall, not Maur, but they may be related.) Could this give any clues about the identity of the mysterious Suzanne?
Well, Maur is a short form of Mauer ... but I wonder ...

In addition, there's a German nursery rhyme on a small bug sitting on a wall - with every verse one more letter of its name has to be omitted when you sing it, like some stepwise disappearance ... I wonder, but I don't find it so very far out ...
and wrote: Also, I wondered if 'out of phase' may be a reference of some kind to Suzanne 'getting you on her wavelength' in the Leonard Cohen song; wavelength and phase are both properties of waves (including electromagnetic and sound.) So in some metaphorical way if you're on the same wavelength as someone but out of phase, you might have trouble interacting with them as you're always 45 degrees behind them (or something.) :?
I do like this idea, basically.
Heaven knows why I understand on the wall as steadily being reminded of so. or s.th.
... rather close to some (not necessarily pleasant) sense of clairvoyance flooding your mind
without an escape ... and, apparently, no chance for you to act or counteract ... not to mention, to interact ... :urff: ...

... all of this under the large heading of DESTINY, I imagine ... :urff: :urff: :urff:

Got a word for giving away ... ??? ... But no, fallin' back to stupid again ...
(Sorry, I feel I'm being a bit harsh now. Fact is, I really adore this song
and the way Andrew sings it. I'm sure, nobody else could do that ...)

Therefore I apologize in advance and hope you forgive me the somewhat
not 100 % appropriate need to mention - as an, say complementary comment -
this quote of ...

New Angels of Promise
(David Bowie / Hours)

New angels of promise
We despair
We are the dead dreams
We take the blame

Take us to the edge of time
Take us to the edge of time
We are the fabulous lovers
I am the blind man
She's my eyes

Suspicious minds
You didn't feel us coming in this lonely crowd
It's always time

New angels of promise
We despise
Don't fall apart now
We are the silent ones

Take us to the edge of time
Take us to the edge of time
We are the tabular lovers
We listen to the storm

Suspicious minds
You didn't feel us coming in this lonely crowd
It's always time

It's always time (repeat)

Very, very sad.
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yes, you are
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Of course, who else? ;D

Anyway, just a further of these derobements of yours, I guess ... 8)
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I think that "Susanne on the wall" makes the best sense if Susanne is a reference to Susanne Holst and "on the wall" points to a television set (flatscreen maybe, but CRT would work too I guess).


And "auf der Maur" is a German surname? I have never come across that one - or anything remotely similar - before.
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Lord Emsworth wrote:And "auf der Maur" is a German surname? I have never come across that one - or anything remotely similar - before.
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She's a very good bassist :wink:
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Lord Emsworth wrote:And "auf der Maur" is a German surname? I have never come across that one - or anything remotely similar - before.
Really? :eek:

Never heard of Smashing Pumpkins? Or Courtney Love?

Maybe the name confusion is due to it being Swiss German... :wink:
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Big Si wrote:
Lord Emsworth wrote:And "auf der Maur" is a German surname? I have never come across that one - or anything remotely similar - before.
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She's a very good bassist :wink:
..and pretty good looking... :notworthy:

I really love her music..
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No, it is the first time I come across that name.

But if there is any kind of connection between "on the wall" in Susanne, and that surname, then it is almost definitely Melissa Auf der Maur who is meant.

She's even got a Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Auf_der_Maur
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could somebody please explain what does it mean to be lost for stupid? thanks.
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The 'Suzanne' could even be Suzanne Josesowicz
I don't doubt and I don't take direction....
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omlagus wrote:could somebody please explain what does it mean to be lost for stupid? thanks.
hhm, say love lost, fire at will and death to inspiration... ?
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omlagus wrote:could somebody please explain what does it mean to be lost for stupid? thanks.
I kinda saw a connection to Leonard Cohen's Suzanne for that part-- Wanting to "travel blind" and all that. Probably just me. :lol:
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