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markfiend wrote:
sultan2075 wrote:I've experimented with Linux in the past, I just don't need that level of flexibility, or that much tinkering-under-the-hood. I don't have time for it any more.
The tinkering-under-the-hood satisfies my inner geek. :lol:
Oh, I know. There's a part of me that still wants to do that, and I do occasionally find myself thinking about Linux. But--no joke, I swear!--one of the nice things about abandoning Windows for the Mac is that I actually have more time to work on the things I need to work on, because I'm not constantly futzing around beneath the hood. It wasn't until I bought my MBP and then switched my wife to a Macbook that I realized how much time I spent fixing her computer and my computers. It's nice not having to do that anymore.
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markfiend wrote:The tinkering-under-the-hood satisfies my inner geek. :lol:
I've got C for that. :wink: :D
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Seriously though, with Linux Mint, I've not needed to do any tinkering under the hood. Not even to get flash video or wifi working. Even Kerry's 12-year-old printer worked "out of the box".

I've ended up playing with Gentoo just so's I have something I can tinker with too.

And yes, Mac is far better than Windows on that score.
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James Blast wrote:<watches quietly from the higher ground>
Shuttit Macboi. :P
*laughs* Yeah Mr. Blast why was it you don't go onto Myspace anymore?

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The only social networking I need is right here on good ol' HL 8)
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James Blast wrote:cause it blows
years ago, innit ?
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True Story. My first day with a Mac (admittedly a few years ago)

<ring ring><ring<ring>
guy: Hello, Apple techncal support, how can I help?
me: I can't eject the frickin CD from the drive
guy: oh, just drag the CD to the Trash bin
me: well, I don't want to trash it, I want to eject it.
guy: well, that's how you do it on a Mac!
me: can't I press the eject button on the drive?
guy: no.
me: why not?
guy: Coz on a Mac, you have to trash it!
me: can I back to MS-DOS now?

(I've since heard that Apple used to receive hundreds of calls on this every day....)

<ring ring><ring<ring>
guy: Hello, Apple techncal support, how can I help?
me: I'm new to the Mac and am trying to use the command line prompt thingy for developers. Every time I press <return> it just goes to the next line, and doesn't enter the command.
guy: you need to press <enter>, nor <return>
me: on the numeric keypad?
guy: yup
me: that's very... unintuitive...
guy: mmm
me: ... and violates about 30 years of computer usage conversions....
guy: mmm

<ring ring><ring<ring>
guy: Hello, Apple techncal support, how can I help?
me: I'm writing a game for the Mac, how do I write straight to the screen display?
guy: oh, just use sprites
me: its a 3D game.
guy: a real game?
me: yes. It has explosions and everything.
guy: really? on the mac?
me: yup
guy: can you send us a copy?
me: no, because I cannot access the friggin screen display.
guy: oh, just access those structures we say don't access the docs.
me: ok then....



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James Blast wrote:cause it blows
Oh, I beg your pardon, I thought on an other thread here you said
James Blast wrote:I have a MySpazz and never touch it because my Mac grinds to an halt whenever I visit
:innocent: :wink:
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MadameButterfly wrote:
James Blast wrote:cause it blows
Oh, I beg your pardon, I thought on an other thread here you said
James Blast wrote:I have a MySpazz and never touch it because my Mac grinds to an halt whenever I visit
:innocent: :wink:
my mac's fine (both of them), but my will to live does.
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Quiff Boy wrote:
MadameButterfly wrote:
James Blast wrote:cause it blows
Oh, I beg your pardon, I thought on an other thread here you said
James Blast wrote:I have a MySpazz and never touch it because my Mac grinds to an halt whenever I visit
:innocent: :wink:
my mac's fine (both of them), but my will to live does.
now i'm confused! the "but my will to live does"....does what? grind to an halt whenever you visit? or i visit? yeah i know that :wink: :lol:

what do i know, except my laptop is just fine for all i need. :D
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markfiend wrote:The only social networking I need is right here on good ol' HL 8)
Awww...bless this MOD! :notworthy: 8) :notworthy:

Bless you Mark the Meerkat!
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I think MacOS is quite OK and with a little cheating you can install it on common PC hardware (mac computers are basicly common pc's as well - just overpriced IMHO). I prefer to arrange my computer/hardware on my own btw. - never bought a complete computer in my life (except my PDA).

My problem is just that I don't have any problems with my windows machine so there's no reason for me to literally "touch a running system". I don't even feel the need to upgrade to vista or windows 7 because XP is still doing it and there's plenty free tools out the to customize some geeky features (like rocketdock).
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DocSommer wrote:I think MacOS is quite OK and with a little cheating you can install it on common PC hardware (mac computers are basicly common pc's as well - just overpriced IMHO). ...

My problem is just that I don't have any problems with my windows machine so there's no reason for me to literally "touch a running system" ...
Absolutely seconded. Slowly I really feel it necessary to upgrade to XP, though ... :lol: ...
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MadameButterfly wrote:
James Blast wrote:cause it blows
Oh, I beg your pardon, I thought on an other thread here you said
James Blast wrote:I have a MySpazz and never touch it because my Mac grinds to an halt whenever I visit
:innocent: :wink:
To be fair, everything grinds to a halt whwnever you visit MySpace. The real question is why you would want to.
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Absolutely seconded. Slowly I really feel it necessary to upgrade to XP, though ... :lol: ...
:lol: :lol: still using w2k?
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... as a matter of fact. 2000, since last year in autumn ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

and before that, I had even less problems, thanks to 98ME ... :lol:
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DocSommer wrote:...I don't even feel the need to upgrade to vista...
Vista is not an upgrade. Trust me on this one. :?
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Being645 wrote:...and before that, I had even less problems, thanks to 98ME ... :lol:
Someone else who was still running ME! I'm astonished! (But I get to be, since I'm only just now getting XP...) :lol:
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stufarq wrote: To be fair, everything grinds to a halt whwnever you visit MySpace. The real question is why you would want to.
No, I've never had that problem of Myspace grinding to a halt.
The real answer to your question is I don't know! Seemed like a good idea at the time but now considering closing that account actually.
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MadameButterfly wrote:now i'm confused! the "but my will to live does"....does what? grind to an halt whenever you visit?
yep... it's a dreadful site :urff:

never had any issues with it on any computer (mac, pc or *nix) though, other the obvious :lol:
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MadameButterfly wrote:now i'm confused! the "but my will to live does"....does what? grind to an halt whenever you visit?
yep... it's a dreadful site :urff:

never had any issues with it on any computer (mac, pc or *nix) though, other the obvious :lol:
must admit i'm not a fan of it myself anymore. oh well one day i might just kill that account.

right back to the mac vs pc..
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7anthea7 wrote:
Being645 wrote:...and before that, I had even less problems, thanks to 98ME ... :lol:
Someone else who was still running ME! I'm astonished! (But I get to be, since I'm only just now getting XP...) :lol:
Don't laugh - I'm still running 3.1 on one of the machines. Never crashes, it's lovely :)
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you're lovely too ;D
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James Blast wrote:you're lovely too ;D


Oooh, Mr. Blast - you do know how to make a girl blush, and no mistake [giggle].
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