does anyone believe in...

Does exactly what it says on the tin. Some of the nonsense contained herein may be very loosely related to The Sisters of Mercy, but I wouldn't bet your PayPal account on it. In keeping with the internet's general theme nothing written here should be taken as Gospel: over three quarters of it is utter gibberish, and most of the forum's denizens haven't spoken to another human being face-to-face for decades. Don't worry your pretty little heads about it. Above all else, remember this: You don't have to stay forever. I will understand.
Post Reply
User avatar
RicheyJames
Bad Tempered Young Man
Posts: 1098
Joined: 02 Jun 2002, 01:00
Location: far beyond the pale

...tv detector vans?

there's a fierce debate somewhere else as to whether or not these things actually exist. or more to the point, do they actually do anything?

so, what's the heartland take on this emotive subject?
"contradictions are meaningless, there's nothing to betray"
User avatar
Black Planet
Andrew's Love Goddess
Posts: 2170
Joined: 02 Jun 2003, 20:16

Forgive my ignorance Mr. James, but what is a tv detector van? What are they supposed do?
User avatar
RicheyJames
Bad Tempered Young Man
Posts: 1098
Joined: 02 Jun 2002, 01:00
Location: far beyond the pale

aah yes. for any poor souls forced to inhabit those dark regions outside of uk jurisdiction a quick precis...

the uk has one public (and several private) broadcaster - the world famous british broadcasting corporation (bbc) - in order to pay for this fine service every household with tv receiving equipment must purchase an annual "tv licence" at a cost of £100+ (can't remember the exact figure). there's an entire organisation devoted to chasing up those who don't pay and they claim to have "detector vans" which contain equipment capable of detecting the location of any secret televisions in the locale.

the question is, therefore, is this technically possible? and, if it is, do they really do it or is it just a scare tactic?
"contradictions are meaningless, there's nothing to betray"
User avatar
Loki
God of Mischief and Discord
Posts: 2351
Joined: 14 Jul 2003, 14:25
Location: Ragnarök

I would guess yes. I onced lived in a flat with no licence (not that you need a licence to live in a flat ...) and a van came round and parked outside in the street. Five minutes later there was lots of door knocking and bell ringing downstairs but nobody answered to let them in the main door.

Just in case though, I threw a blanket over the telly and hid behind the sofa.
Loki was never worshiped as the other Gods,
Which is quite understandable.
User avatar
zaltys7
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 382
Joined: 13 Jun 2003, 15:26

Would I be right in thinking that whenever you buy a new Television that you have to prove you have a TV licence. :?:

Havent bought a new telly in a long while.

Btw the licence fee is going up again next year by a fiver so it will be £120 +

Paul
"We have too many cellphones. We've got too many internets. We have got to get rid of those machines. We have too many machines now." - Ray Bradbury.
User avatar
Big Si
School Bully
Posts: 6746
Joined: 19 Nov 2002, 00:00
Location: Glesga Central

zaltys7 wrote: Btw the licence fee is going up again next year by a fiver so it will be £120 +
To pay for the extra Digital Channels that the huge majority of licence payers do not have any access to! ;D
Wyrd bið ful aræd...

mybelgiannemesis
User avatar
Black Planet
Andrew's Love Goddess
Posts: 2170
Joined: 02 Jun 2003, 20:16

Thank you Richey.

We pay $50 per month, or around 85gbp for what we call basic cable tv. Here, if you are recieving cable without paying you're a cable pirate. Highly illegal. They Say they know who's pirating... and will catch you. But generally every so often Amnesty is offered to those who come forward and fess up.

Now the question is, why offer amnesty if they Really do have the capability to sniff you out and catch you?

Good God! You must be licensed to watch tv in UK? :eek: :eek: :eek: We need a license to drive here...but not to watch telly.
User avatar
mh
Above the Chemist
Posts: 8088
Joined: 23 Jun 2003, 14:41
Location: A city built on rock 'n' roll

Yeh, we get the same sting in dear ol' Oirland, and yeh, I've been caught once.

It's a dreadful rip-off, but that's public service broadcasting for you. You pay to buy a telly, pay for the electricity, pay yr annual license, pay for yr extra channels, pay for yr pay per view, it's a wonder any of us can even afford beer!!!
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
User avatar
RicheyJames
Bad Tempered Young Man
Posts: 1098
Joined: 02 Jun 2002, 01:00
Location: far beyond the pale

zaltys7 wrote:Would I be right in thinking that whenever you buy a new Television that you have to prove you have a TV licence. :?:
you don't have to prove you have a licence to buy a telly but i think the shop you buy/rent from have to notify the tv licensing people. which strikes me as a far more likely way of catching non-payers than some sort of mystical technology...
"contradictions are meaningless, there's nothing to betray"
User avatar
mugabe
Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 681
Joined: 28 Sep 2003, 13:31
Location: Avesta
Contact:

Black Planet wrote:Thank you Richey.

We pay $50 per month, or around 85gbp for what we call basic cable tv. Here, if you are recieving cable without paying you're a cable pirate. Highly illegal. They Say they know who's pirating... and will catch you. But generally every so often Amnesty is offered to those who come forward and fess up.

Now the question is, why offer amnesty if they Really do have the capability to sniff you out and catch you?

Good God! You must be licensed to watch tv in UK? :eek: :eek: :eek: We need a license to drive here...but not to watch telly.
You need a license here as well, it's for financing the state television channels. Not many of those around in the US, I suppose. Very few people are actually prosecuted for not paying this fee, so I suppose they are content with people paying their share. The TV detectors here are hand-held and look like a TV antenna with an attached oscilloscope, which is probably what it is, come to think of it.

You need to work on your USD<->GBP conversion, btw. Or tell me where you buy your sterling.
Nothing ventured, nothing lost
User avatar
Black Planet
Andrew's Love Goddess
Posts: 2170
Joined: 02 Jun 2003, 20:16

@ Mugabe

LOL I guess that should be around 35 gbp not 85! You would laugh your ass off if you knew what I did at work! :wink: It deals heavily with ....numbers! :oops:

I have never gotten a good exchange rate for gbp! If I could I'd be in London 5 December for that Zodiac gig. Unfortunately, I can't afford it. :urff:

We do have federally funded public televison. It receives an annual appropriation out of the income taxes collected by the government rather than a separate assessment for it. It is also subsidized by private donations. It's called Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and it's not bad tv.

I guess that's a difference in our tax structures. We pay one large sum over time, and Congress divides it up as they see fit, rather than a lot of smaller fees for this and that.
User avatar
James Blast
Banned
Posts: 24699
Joined: 11 Jun 2003, 18:58
Location: back from some place else

<-------watching the telly
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
Post Reply