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Apparently, 196 out of 890 Welsh [language] programmes broadcast by S4C in February failed to attract a single viewer.*
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* OK, as some commenters have pointed out, the stats count anything upto 1,000 as statistically zero. Which means it's possible that up to 1,000 people have been enjoying the delights of Sgorio and Igam Ogam. Or, not.
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Cultural diversity innit.nodubmanshouts wrote:Your tax dollars at work!
I've never understood why the government encourages this sort of stuff... shouldn't we be trying to reduce the number of world languages, so we can all start talking to each other a bit better?
they just don't watch tv muchmarkfiend wrote:Cultural diversity innit.nodubmanshouts wrote:Your tax dollars at work!
I've never understood why the government encourages this sort of stuff... shouldn't we be trying to reduce the number of world languages, so we can all start talking to each other a bit better?
And there is a substantial proportion of the Welsh people for whom Welsh is their first language, so technically it is a native tongue of these isles.
Well yeah, but I wonder at cost? I'm down with people learning other languages, but I really wonder if that's where we should be putting our efforts... one man's cultural diversity is another's fragmented society.Cultural diversity innit.
Not really. It was dying before they came along. Not dead - sure - but definitely dying.It survived without S4C and without dual language roadsigns,
Sure. If they want to pay for it... just don't expect everyone else to!but Welsh speakers deserve the respect of seeing, hearing and being able to read in their first language.
Dying it was n't and on the wrong end of the colonisation s**t stick. That it has survived 700 years after the land was conquered would suggest a healthy language (with a bit of balls).nodubmanshouts wrote:Not really. It was dying before they came along. Not dead - sure - but definitely dying.It survived without S4C and without dual language roadsigns,
Sure. If they want to pay for it... just don't expect everyone else to!but Welsh speakers deserve the respect of seeing, hearing and being able to read in their first language.
As any liguistic expert will tell you, language is an evolving thing, and Welsh has one hand on the wrong end of the Darwinistic s**t stick.
Doesn't have to be. California is a highly multicultural society, but the government doesn't subsidize to the extent that the UK does. Neither my wife nor I are from the USA (my wife is Japanese), and we're quite happy to pay our way for our own culturual uniquenessess... like, for example, paying a monthly fee for Japan TV. Since Japan TV is a going convern, they have to make sure they deliver programming people will watch, or else the channel will die.That said I understand why the English don't want to pay for it, but that 's just life in a multicultural democratic society. I have to pay for Eastenders.
S4C have already taken measures, accordingly ...nodubmanshouts wrote:Since Japan TV is a going convern, they have to make sure they deliver programming people will watch, or else the channel will die.
...Thank f**k...Being645 wrote:S4C have already taken measures, accordingly ...nodubmanshouts wrote:Since Japan TV is a going convern, they have to make sure they deliver programming people will watch, or else the channel will die.
http://www.s4c.co.uk/e_press_level2.shtml?id=319
Yeah, especially for the sake of the kids ...Gollum's Cock wrote:Thank f**k...Being645 wrote:S4C have already taken measures, accordingly ...nodubmanshouts wrote:Since Japan TV is a going convern, they have to make sure they deliver programming people will watch, or else the channel will die.
http://www.s4c.co.uk/e_press_level2.shtml?id=319
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I would have taken Uchmer Shmuchmer 4-Hour Christmas Special with Celebrity Guests if it meant that Supergran was taken off the air...weebleswobble wrote:Scottish garlic programmes where the bain of my childhood. Want to watch cartoons at the weekend? Tough here is Uchmer Shmuchmer in the Highlands instead...
So, hoardes of juvenile welsh TWOCkers are kidnapping the sun and putting it in their caves. The logical consequence of trying to imprison a giant ball of flaming gas is obvious.Some bunch of crazy sheep-shaggers who spend most of their days skulled on Brain's SA wrote: As the sun is setting low over IG’S house, she pops up from behind the house. ‘I want it’, she repeats and hooks the string which pulls the sun up and down in the sky with a big stick; then she grabs the string and pulls the sun towards her. ‘Mine’, she declares triumphantly, ‘mine’. IG drags the sun by its string to a cave where she leaves it, deep inside, and pulls scrub across the entrance to hide it.
Have you ever actually been to Wales? In some parts (eg Gwynneth), pretty much everyone speaks Welsh as a first language. Okay, that may be an exaggeration from an outsider's perspective but, having holidayed there last year, that's how it appeared. Everyone who wasn't speaking to the tourists seemed to be speaking Welsh and all the signs are in Welsh too. Hardly a dying language.nodubmanshouts wrote:Not really. It was dying before they came along. Not dead - sure - but definitely dying.
Or rather they watch the other 694 programmes.Quiff Boy wrote:they just don't watch tv much
I'm from Gwynedd (sorry for the spell check) and yes we all speak Welsh there. I actually felt sorry for the ones that did n't (they were n't that popular - apartheid lives on).stufarq wrote:Have you ever actually been to Wales? In some parts (eg Gwynneth), pretty much everyone speaks Welsh as a first language. Okay, that may be an exaggeration from an outsider's perspective but, having holidayed there last year, that's how it appeared. Everyone who wasn't speaking to the tourists seemed to be speaking Welsh and all the signs are in Welsh too. Hardly a dying language.nodubmanshouts wrote:Not really. It was dying before they came along. Not dead - sure - but definitely dying.
Or rather they watch the other 694 programmes.Quiff Boy wrote:they just don't watch tv much
Yup, That was one of the points I was trying to make by the comment "one man's cultural diversity is another's fragmented society"I actually felt sorry for the ones that did n't (they were n't that popular - apartheid lives on).
The Welsh language was not dying a natural death, suppression would be a better description. " WelshNot" and other more subtle ways over the years meant that the language was doomed to failure. Thank f for the Welsh Language Act.nodubmanshouts wrote:@stufarq: I am not talking about now, I am not talking about pre Welsh Language Act 1993, and pre- all those attempts to stop the language from dying (which it was) since then.
Yup, That was one of the points I was trying to make by the comment "one man's cultural diversity is another's fragmented society"I actually felt sorry for the ones that did n't (they were n't that popular - apartheid lives on).
) I know it's Ceredigion not Gwynedd but it's still pretty much "Welsh Wales" if you know what I mean.
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